Actually, the window IS movable on my system (Linux) so that may be a 
Mac only issue as well... I don't have a Mac to test on, so I can't be 
of much  help on that. A quick search didn't turn anything up, but there 
must be a way to handle this.

Any Mac/Tkinter experts in the audience?

Vern

Toby Donaldson wrote:
> Thinking a little more about this, I realize that the default
> *positioning* of the window isn't too big a deal for me, so long as it
> ends up somewhere on my monitor. :-)
> 
> I see at least two main educational roles for turtle graphics: coding
> and demonstrating. For coding, as you describe, it seems most coders
> will want a few neatly-tiled windows open at once.  For
> demonstrations, one large window would probably be preferred. I don't
> think a single configuration will satisfy both uses, but if it is
> straightforward to programmatically set the size and position of the
> window, I think both groups can be satisfied.
> 
> The bigger issue is making it movable ... if it's not movable then
> using it at the same time as the source editing window will be a pain.
> 
> One other thing, which I believe might only be a Mac issue: the
> re-sizing widget on the Mac is a little triangle in the lower left
> corner of the window that cuts off a bit of the window. This is
> annoying on small windows, or when you want to display something like
> an image in the whole window visible (admittedly not too common in
> turtle graphics). I don't know if it is possible on the Mac to have a
> re-sizable window without this widget, but that would be ideal. This
> is just small point: I can certainly live with the re-sizing widget,
> and would certainly prefer the window be re-sizable.
> 
> Toby
> 
> On 3/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Toby,
>>
>>I can agree with you that having the turtle window appear in the middle
>>of the monitor can be aesthetically nicer default than having it appear
>>in the upper-left corner. This is certainly true when the window
>>appears as a standalone application. But does this happen often? I do
>>not thiink that turtle graphics is intended to be used for  any kind of
>>standalone applications, it is obviously an educationla tool.
>>
>>Typically, my students open (1) a lab assignment to work on, (2) and an
>>interactive shell. Then they open a turtle window. They arrange those
>>THREE windows so that they can access the all of them at the same time.
>>Assuming that students do something more than just watching the turtle
>>window, it cannot stay in the middle of the screen. Normally, it goes
>>to some corner. At least with all students that I know.
>>
>>This is why a default window position towards the upper left corner
>>seems to me practically appealing and reasonable.
>>
>>I like to agree with people but today seems to be my day to disagree
>>:-( My apologi\y. Actually, I find all of your comment and suggestions
>>very interesting, and to me personally, very acceptable (except for the
>>default position of the window, but the window can be moved around,
>>after all).
>>
>>Atanas
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Dr. Toby Donaldson
> School of Computing Science
> Simon Fraser University (Surrey)
> 

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