Are you saying that you compute the decomposition in one type and solve
with a RHS of a different type? Why do you say that VS^-1U^T * b should be
Matrix<T>? That makes an assumption about type coercion rules. In fact, you
cannot generally mix types in Eigen expressions without explicit casting,
and U.adjoint() * b should fail if the types are different.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:33 AM Oleg Shirokobrod <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Rasmuss, I do not quite understand this issue. Decomposition solve should
> propagate scalar type of a matrix but not scalar type of its argument.
> Example:
> template <typename T> Matrix<T> A;
> VectorXd b;
> A.jcobiSVD().solve(b) should be of type Matrix<T> but it is not. Type of
> result is Matrix<double>. If we make SVD decomposition of A = USV^T and
> express result as VS^-1U^T * b, than result will be of type Matrix<T>.
> Which is correct and differs from result of solve which uses the same
> algorithm but more complex result’s type deduction. This is the problem.
>
> On Wed 3. Jun 2020 at 20.19, Rasmus Munk Larsen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, I opened https://gitlab.com/libeigen/eigen/-/issues/1909 for this.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 11:06 PM Oleg Shirokobrod <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. At the time of computing only 1d observation (VectorXd) is known.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:42 PM Rasmus Munk Larsen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so b is declared as VectorXf or some other type with
>>>> ColsAtCompileTime=1?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 11:27 AM Oleg Shirokobrod <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, b is measured spectrum that is 1d array. I have to get x for 1d
>>>>> array at a time. I fit sum of peak models to 1d rhs. 1d array of peak 
>>>>> model
>>>>> values is one column of matrix A.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue 2. Jun 2020 at 20.06, Rasmus Munk Larsen <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you say that? You could be solving for multiple
>>>>>> right-hand sides. Is b know to have 1 column at compile time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Oleg Shirokobrod <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Rasmus,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have just tested COD decomposition in Eigen library. It arises the
>>>>>>> same problem. This is defect of Eigen decomposition module type 
>>>>>>> reduction
>>>>>>> of result of solve method.  If
>>>>>>>  template <typename T> Matrix<T, Dynamic, Dynamic>  A; and ArraXd
>>>>>>> b;, than x = A.solve(b) should be of type  <typename T> Matrix<T, 
>>>>>>> Dynamic,
>>>>>>> 1.>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the idea to use COD as an alternative to QR or SVD and I
>>>>>>> added this option to my code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 10:36 AM Oleg Shirokobrod <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rasmus, I wiil have a look at COD. Brad, I did not try CppAD.I am
>>>>>>>> working in given framework: ceres nonlinear least squares solver + 
>>>>>>>> ceres
>>>>>>>> autodiff + Eigen decomposition modules SVD or QR. The problem is not 
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> on autodiff side. The problem is that Eigen decomposition modul does 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> work properly with autodiff type variable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you everybody for advice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:41 PM Rasmus Munk Larsen <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:33 AM Patrik Huber <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rasmus,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is slightly off-topic to this thread here, but it would be
>>>>>>>>>> great if you added your COD to the list/table of decompositions in 
>>>>>>>>>> Eigen:
>>>>>>>>>> https://eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/group__TopicLinearAlgebraDecompositions.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First, it would make it easier for people to find, and second, it
>>>>>>>>>> would also help a lot to see on that page how the algorithm compares 
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> others, to be able to choose it appropriately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good point. Will do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unrelated: @All/Maintainers: It seems like lots (all) of the
>>>>>>>>>> images on the documentation website are broken? At least for me. 
>>>>>>>>>> E.g.:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:59, Rasmus Munk Larsen <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Oleg and Sameer,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A faster option than SVD, but more robust than QR (since it also
>>>>>>>>>>> handles the under-determined case) is the complete orthogonal 
>>>>>>>>>>> decomposition
>>>>>>>>>>> that I implemented in Eigen a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/classEigen_1_1CompleteOrthogonalDecomposition.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Looks like the docstring is broken - oops!)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It appears to also be available in the 3.3 branch:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://gitlab.com/libeigen/eigen/-/blob/3.3/Eigen/src/QR/CompleteOrthogonalDecomposition.h
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rasmus
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 6:57 AM Sameer Agarwal <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oleg,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ideas:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. You may have an easier time using QR factorization instead
>>>>>>>>>>>> of SVD to solve your least squares problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  But you can do better, instead of trying to solve linear
>>>>>>>>>>>> least squares problem involving a matrix of Jets, you are better 
>>>>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>>>>> solving the linear least squares problem on the scalars, and then 
>>>>>>>>>>>> using the implicit
>>>>>>>>>>>> function theorem
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_function_theorem> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> compute the derivative w.r.t the parameters and then applying the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> chain
>>>>>>>>>>>> rule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e., start with min |A x = b|
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the solution satisfies the equation
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A'A x - A'b = 0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> solve this equation to get the optimal value of x, and then
>>>>>>>>>>>> compute the jacobian of this equation w.r.t A, b and x. and apply 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> implicit theorem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sameer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:46 AM Oleg Shirokobrod <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi list, I am using Eigen 3.3.7 release with ceres solver
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.14.0 with autodiff Jet data type and I have some problems. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solve linear least square subproblem within variable projection 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> algorithm,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> namely I need to solve LLS equation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A(p)*x = b
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where matrix A(p) depends on nonlinear parameters p:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x(p) = pseudo-inverse(A(p))*b;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x(p) will be optimized in nonlinear least squares fitting, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need Jcobian. Rhs b is measured vector of doubles, e.g. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VectorXd. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to use ceres's autodiff p must be of Jet type. Ceres 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponding traits for binary operations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> #if EIGEN_VERSION_AT_LEAST(3, 3, 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Specifying the return type of binary operations between
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jets and scalar types
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // allows you to perform matrix/array operations with Eigen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matrices and arrays
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where one Eigen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // matrix/array is of type Jet and the other is a scalar type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This improves
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // performance by using the optimized scalar-to-Jet binary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> operations but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // is only available on Eigen versions >= 3.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> template <typename BinaryOp, typename T, int N>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> struct ScalarBinaryOpTraits<ceres::Jet<T, N>, T, BinaryOp> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   typedef ceres::Jet<T, N> ReturnType;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>>>>>> template <typename BinaryOp, typename T, int N>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> struct ScalarBinaryOpTraits<T, ceres::Jet<T, N>, BinaryOp> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   typedef ceres::Jet<T, N> ReturnType;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>>>>>> #endif  // EIGEN_VERSION_AT_LEAST(3, 3, 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There two problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Small problem. In a function "RealScalar threshold() const"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SCDbase.h I have to replace "return m_usePrescribedThreshold ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> m_prescribedThreshold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     : diagSize*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NumTraits<Scalar>::epsilon();" with "return 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> m_usePrescribedThreshold ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> m_prescribedThreshold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     : Scalar(diagSize)*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NumTraits<Scalar>::epsilon();"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This fix is similar Gael's fix of Bug 1403
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1403>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It is less trivial. I expect that x(p) =
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pseudo-inverse(A(p))*b; is vector of Jet. And it is actually true 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for e.g
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVD decompoazition
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x(p) = VSU^T * b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if I use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JcobySVD<Matrix<Jet<double, 2>, Dynamic, Dynamic>> svd(A);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x(p) = svd.solve(b),
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got error message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here code for reproducing the error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // test_svd_jet.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>>> #include <ceres/jet.h>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using ceres::Jet;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> int test_svd_jet()
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     typedef Matrix<Jet<double, 2>, Dynamic, Dynamic> Mat;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     typedef Matrix<Jet<double, 2>, Dynamic, 1> Vec;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Mat A = MatrixXd::Random(3, 2).cast <Jet<double, 2>>();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      VectorXd b = VectorXd::Random(3);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      JacobiSVD<Mat> svd(A, ComputeThinU | ComputeThinV);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      int l_rank = svd.rank();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Vec c = svd.matrixV().leftCols(l_rank)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> svd.singularValues().head(l_rank).asDiagonal().inverse()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          * svd.matrixU().leftCols(l_rank).adjoint() * b; // *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Vec c1 = svd.solve(b.cast<Jet<double, 2>>()); // **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Vec c2 = svd.solve(b); // ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      return 0;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // End test_svd_jet.cpp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // * and // ** work fine an give the same results. // ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fails with VS 2019 error message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eigen\src\Core\functors\AssignmentFunctors.h(24,1):
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error C2679: binary '=': no operator found which takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a right-hand operand of type 'const SrcScalar'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or there is no acceptable conversion)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The error points to line //***. I thing that solution is of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> type VectorXd instead of Vec and there is problem with assignment 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of double
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Jet. Derivatives are lost either. It should work similar to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> type. If A is complex matrix and b is real vector, x must be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is something wrong with Type deduction in SVD or QR decomposition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any idea of how to fix it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oleg Shirokobrod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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