Hi Evan,

I am curious why you are not curious. This seems a simple test to perform
and the results should have been posted immediately. Bear in mind you might
have perspective customers on this list who will view this inaction in not
so good a light no matter what your technical/personal arguments are. Would
you prefer that your customers to find out the hard and costly way that your
implementation does not handle such a situation? Normally architects have
pride in their creation and want to ensure that it meets and possibly beats
the competition no matter how trival the match is.

kind regards,

William Louth

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evan Ireland [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 1:19 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Rmi/iiop results (was Why smoke signals matter)
>
> "Jonathan K. Weedon" wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Also, how are other vendors doing on the tests?  We have not
> > yet heard about:
> >
> >         BEA's WebLogic Enterprise
> >         BEA's WebLogic Server running over IIOP
> >         IBM's WebSphere
> >         Oracle's Application Server
> >         SUN/AOL/Netscape's iPlanet
> >         Sybase's EA Server
> >
> > At this point, I would have to be pessimistic and assume that
> > a lack of results would indicate a lack of compliance.  A number
> > of vendors were very quick to respond that their products passed
> > the tests (and, again, congrats).  How about the silent ones?
>
> <vendor>
>
> A lack of results from Sybase simply indicates that we haven't been
> bothered
> to run the tests. As far as I am aware, not one of our customers or
> prospective customer has expressed any interest in seeing our results for
> these tests. If you would care to send me the complete test suite I will
> pass it on to our QA group.
>
> I would make a comment on behalf of many of our customers that IIOP access
> to EJBs using CORBA 2.2 IDL (i.e. no valuetypes) is far more important
> than
> worrying about whether or not Java null values can be correctly propagated
> in
> remote calls. Fortunately for us most of the other vendors pay lip service
> to
> this and we benefit by getting the customers who really care about having
> usable interoperability that doesn't require them to write CORBA wrappers
> for
> all their EJBs or C++ implementations of Java value types.
>
> And by the way, we do support Java serialization for customers who don't
> care
> about cross-language interoperability.
>
> </vendor>
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> Evan Ireland              Sybase EAServer Engineering
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