Hi Avi

>this design allows you to separate the cache from the content
>generator, thus improving scalability.

That is the problem, I need to have caching (perhaps with a proxy server as
you suggested) and logging. The logging is the most important thing here. So
what I want is the best of both worlds. Cache will give me performance like
a static web site, logging will give me the merits of a generated web site.


For example when the first request comes in for a web page I need to do four
steps:-

1. generate the content for the page request
2. log which content has been show on that page
3. cache the page
4. return the web page to the user

then when the second request comes in it will use the cached page so I do
this:-

1. find the cached page for the page request
2. log which content that has been show on that page
3. return the cached web page to the user.

I do not see how a proxy server can accomplish step number 2. Normal logging
done by a web server (e.g. Logging which page is served by the proxy server
or indeed the parameters of the request for the page) is insufficient as
this information will not directly reflex which content I actually show on
the cached page. For example the cached page my contain content that has
randomly been selected (perhaps an add banner) and so I need to make a log
of this.

Problem is more complex than it first seem. If it I did not require
extensive logging then using a proxy server would be ideal.

Any more solutions, peeps ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Avi Kivity [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An Eloquent and Sophisticated Caching system Design ?


This is what a proxy server (i.e. squid) does, so I see no problem.
In fact, this design allows you to separate the cache from the content
generator, thus improving scalability.

- Avi
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Delahunty
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: An Eloquent and Sophisticated Caching system Design ?
>
>
> To the Guru's
>
> Has anyone ever built a caching system using servlets ?
>
> This is my scenario, I have a web site running on EJB and
> servlets which are
> used to produce dynamic web pages. However these web pages do
> not change
> very often and so if I could cache the HTML that is generated
> it would speed
> up the web site loads. This mean I wouldn't have to keep
> going to the ejb
> layer each time.
>
> Now here is the catch.
>
> I need to log the information our users are seeing. So for
> example if a web
> page is generated that shows product 1,2 and 3. I need to log this
> information. This is simple if the servlet EJB layer is used.
> However if I
> have a cached page this layer is never called. However I
> still need to log
> the information. I have done an few prototypes using a front
> end servlet to
> do the caching. However servlets are not designed for chaining.
>
> What I mean by that is it is hard for "servlet A" to call
> "Servlet B" and
> read the output of that servlet into say a string. With
> servlets you can
> only "nest" them using requestdispatcher.
>
> One design I have is to intercept a call to the servlets
> running my site.
> Then to open a URL connection to that servlets read in the
> response (eg
> HTML) to a string store that string in a cache (perhaps a
> hashtable) then
> return the response to the user. Then the next time the same
> request comes
> in I will get the HTML string from the cache. I have logging
> built into this
> by calling a shared log object that is stored in the servlet
> context when
> the HTML is first generated by the EJB/servlet layer.
>
> SO then what I want to know is has anyone else done anything like this
> before and do they a better solution. I think the current
> design is messy
> and want a more eloquent solution
>
> Regards Peter
>
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