WL 4.5.1 is sort of old news.  Yes, old versions s*uck, but let's move on to
the current stuff at least.  The app servers I am using all short circuit
the remote call logic if beans are resident in the same JVM.

As for OO, let's not debate the purity of entity beans; anybody using an
RDBMS has sacrificed their object purity for a scalable robust solution.
Put me first on the list.

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: Geert Mergan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Entity beans vs DAO(Data Access Objects)


> speaking of JDO
> > - It also allows to design your business logic as a true OO
> system. I
>
> -  You value purity of object orientation. This is not a
> judgement, just an
>    observation.

Okay, that's true: if people don't need OO then the fact that
entity beans are not OO are not a reason contra entity beans.



> > - JDO offers a much better performance (this is not based
> on speculations
>
> -  You have some prior experience with entity beans in which they have
>    performance X, and you speculate that JDO will be nX where n > 1.

Yeah, entity beans with weblogic 4.51 perform really bad
(BEA doen't deny, they say you should use tools like toplink for WL)

Our architecture had a workaround to use a session bean
and plain sql when a lot of "rows" needed to be loaded from the database.
The workaround outperformed the entity beans by a considerable factor.

Another performance problem with EJB in WL 4.51 is that they do
remote calls when calling eachother, even if they are on the same server

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