IHO, I think there is no perfect solution for any of the complex
network issues, however if we know of a config that reduces the risk
signficantly then I think we should adopt that as a default config.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, joergpra...@gmail.com <
joergpra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The preflight checklist is misleading in several statements:
>
> - you can not "accidentally join" clusters because of multicast. It
> happens when using the default cluster name
>
> - "a lot of chatter with no use" is just pure ignorance of network
> technology. Multicast was designed for zero config, and I love ES for zero
> config. And there is no chatter if you set up a private network for ES
> hosts. That is simple with a router/switch and DHCP. Whole corporation and
> datacenter networks can not live without link-local config for example.
>
> - "you don't have to include the whole cluster" is misleading - each data
> node must always be able to connect to one of the eligible master nodes, or
> the cluster may not work correctly
>
> - the "avoiding split brain" section is a very bold and wrong headline. It
> is promising that split-brains can be avoided by a N/2+1 setting.
> Unfortunately that is nonsense, the truth is, it lowers the risk
> significantly. But there can still be obscure network splits where two
> halves of a split cluster may overlap, so the condition of N/2+1 can become
> true for both halves.
>
> Why do I not count hosts/nodes? There is a difference between the number
> of data nodes and master eligible nodes in a cluster. I have three master
> eligible nodes and set minimum_master_nodes to 3, and that's it. After that
> I can start or stop additional data nodes as much as I like.
>
> Jörg
>
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