Although I agree with the code transparency in principle, it isn't a sound business idea. Scaling an OSS company on support/services revenue alone is very linear and that's not something investors want. You also risk becoming a consulting company, rather than a software distributor.
In the end, all successful OSS companies have a commercial component. This is ES's first stab at it and I think it's a good one. On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:02:50 PM UTC-5, Lukáš Vlček wrote: > > If my memory serves me well one of the issues with plugins is missing > classloading isolation. If you have two plugins installed on a single node > they can clash (we have been hit by this with our own plugins and it took > us some time to figure it out because the symptom was not deterministic). > If Marvel contains Java code that is installed as a plugin it would be imo > useful if the code were a bit more transparent, especially for plugin > developers. > > Regards, > Lukáš > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Ivan Brusic <iv...@brusic.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Marvel doesn't different much from elasticsearch plugins in that the code >> now runs in the same JVM instead of a separate process. The event data is >> pushed rather than pulled. It is great not having to re-invent the wheel, >> but having monitoring outside of elasticsearch is not an issue. Great >> observation about the tribe node BTW. >> >> Given that efficient JSON parsing libraries exist in most languages, I >> rather go that route over the cat API. Time to re-visit monitoring. >> >> Ivan >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Mark Walkom >> <ma...@campaignmonitor.com<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> Or perhaps something could come from the new cat API if they don't want >>> to go that route. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mark Walkom >>> >>> Infrastructure Engineer >>> Campaign Monitor >>> email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com <javascript:> >>> web: www.campaignmonitor.com >>> >>> >>> On 29 January 2014 12:21, joerg...@gmail.com <javascript:> < >>> joerg...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Marvel comes with hidden Java plugin code for an event pusher. Node >>>> events, route events, and shard events of ES can be indexed into ES. Very >>>> useful for historic analysis and post mortem views. >>>> >>>> It seems this was also a motivation for the tribe node mode: grow two >>>> separate clusters, one for the data, another one for the metrics. >>>> >>>> It would be nice if also the event pushing source code could be opened, >>>> so other monitoring tools are able to build on this facility too. Or at >>>> least documenting the event pushing API, for re-implementing it from >>>> scratch. >>>> >>>> Jörg >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "elasticsearch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoG-JaWZU4qFQsUaM_UHCwkzMdYnLruUHNmcnkiZ-wX6jA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "elasticsearch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEM624Yn5y1bxGYd%3DjeG%3DiUVzowhOsuzKi_8erKrPEmTNbxb%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "elasticsearch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQD%3Dh804DJBr2J8V3gDvkSK0ddXHvg0xDBf9XYzUza_n5w%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to elasticsearch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/6de0c52f-f0f8-45d5-b19d-32c149bc1fe2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
