Great work everyone. Feel better about upgrading now.
 On Nov 22, 2014 4:42 PM, "Boaz Leskes" <b.les...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Christian, Daniel,
>
> I believe I found the issue - it has to do with the cloud plugins (both
> AWS and GCE) and the way they create the node list for the unicast based
> discovery. Effectively they mislead it to think that that all nodes on the
> cluster are version 1.4.0 which is not correct.
>
> I opened issues for this so it will be corrected soon:
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-cloud-aws/issues/143 ,
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-cloud-gce/issues/41
>
> Cheers,
> Boaz
>
>
> On Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:04:33 PM UTC+2, Jörg Prante wrote:
>>
>> As said, the change is due to unicast action, which was split in 1.4.0 to
>> an old and a new action, see this commit:
>>
>> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/commit/
>> e5de47d928582694c7729d199390086983779e6e
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Felasticsearch%2Felasticsearch%2Fcommit%2Fe5de47d928582694c7729d199390086983779e6e&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFQkgiVz8SfE_dZ5Sa5K7TqYCIQ6g>
>>
>> I am not sure if this is a bug. It seems like a feature to prevent
>> multiple masters by accident.
>>
>> The strategy as described above by Christian Hedegaard should work, it is
>> still to be considered a work-around:
>>
>> - setting up all new 1.4 nodes as not master eligible ("data only")
>>
>> - joining them to a 1.3.x cluster while master still is on a 1.3 node
>> should work
>>
>> - then, shutting down all 1.3 nodes (except the master) should relocate
>> the shards
>>
>> - bringing down the final 1.3 master should "stall" master election (I
>> would also configure a large timeout for master election). This is
>> critical, no index/mapping creations/deletions or cluster state modifying
>> actions should be executed now.
>>
>> - adding a 1.4 master eligible node should now overtake the cluster (I
>> would start it with the data folder from the final 1.3 master where the
>> last cluster state is persisted) and the critical phase is over.
>>
>> - from then, more 1.4 master eligible nodes should be possible to add
>>
>> - finally, the minimum master nodes setting should be configured
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:56 AM, Christian Hedegaard <
>> chedega...@red5studios.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  FYI, I have found a solution that works (at least for me).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve got a small cluster for testing, only 4 v1.3.5 nodes. What I’ve
>>> done is bring up 4X new v1.4.0 nodes as data-only machines. In the yaml I
>>> added a line to point the nodes via unicast explicitly to the current
>>> master:
>>>
>>> discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts: ["10.210.9.224:9300"]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I restarted elasticsearch with that setting, with cloud-aws
>>> installed and configured on version 2.4.0, the new nodes found the cluster
>>> and properly joined it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will now start nuking the old v1.3.5 nodes to migrate the data off of
>>> them. Before the final 1.3.5 node is nuked, I will change the config on one
>>> of the v1.4.0 nodes to allow it as master and restart it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not sure if the master stuff is needed or not, but I was very afraid
>>> of a split-brain problem. I have another 4-node testing cluster that I will
>>> be able to try this upgrade again with in a more controlled manner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m NOT looking forward to upgrading our current production cluster this
>>> way (15 data-only nodes, 3 master-only nodes).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So it would appear that the problem is somewhere in the unicast
>>> discovery code. The question is who’s to blame? Elasticsearch or the
>>> cloud-aws plugin?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Boaz Leskes [mailto:b.les...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:27 PM
>>> *To:* elasticsearch@googlegroups.com
>>> *Cc:* Christian Hedegaard
>>> *Subject:* Re: 1.4.0 data node can't join existing 1.3.4 cluster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what thread you refer to exactly, but this shouldn't
>>> happen. Can you describe the problem you have some more? Anything in the
>>> nodes? (both the 1.4 node and the master)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Boaz
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:39:57 AM UTC+1, Christian Hedegaard
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found this thread while trying to research the same issue and it looks
>>> like there is currently no resolution. We like to keep up on our
>>> elasticsearch upgrades as often as possible and do rolling upgrades to keep
>>> our clusters up. When testing I’m having the same issue, I cannot add a
>>> 1.4.0 box to the existing 1.3.4 cluster.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a fix for this anticipated?
>>>
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