I have the KH -1.  
I have always had an interest in: how small one can make a radio relative to 
good performance?
Before the KH-1 I considered the KX-1 that I own as an ideal, small, competent, 
self-contained 2-band radio, with tuner. I have built others, as kits, or one 
band units on my own---just for fun.
I have so far worked the following stations while seated on my couch using 
KH-1. All of them relatively strong of course.
Wb0rlj,  NEAi0y,  MNK7RI, UTWC7C, WA
Like the KX-1, this little radio hears well.  I was surprised to hear EU 
stations coming through, very weak but q5 on 20m, one evening while walking up 
and down my drive way.  
Is it possible to build a smaller radio, plus fit a battery and tuner inside of 
it?  
I don't see how!
73, Will, wj9bMiddleton, ID












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    On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 06:32:53 PM MDT, MIKE ZANE via Elecraft 
<elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:  
 
 QRP is a fun way to do ham radio. 1992 WPX contest from Aruba as P40Z was 
amazing, I couldn't work all those that called me as wife shut me down to go on 
some or another excursion.  Mike n6zw
> On 09/26/2024 2:10 PM PDT Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Dan, nice to know someone else is active like me at 79.  I have also used 174 
> and 316 with no ill effect for shorter lengths and low power.  Working QRP is 
> a learning experience and is enjoyable.  The rewards are great!
> 
> 
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Presley <n7...@arrl.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 10:54:09 PM
> To: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com>
> Cc: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w...@w0mu.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Disappointing Performance
> 
> Also don’t sweat using RG 316 or 174 for reasonably short runs. I use 316 
> from the KX2 to the tripod mounting the AX1 and 174 for my linked 40/20/15 
> dipole. The loss is negligible at short distances at HF. And at 5W in the 
> field there’s no need for any baluns or chokes unless you’re using a high 
> impedance end fed. If all goes well next week I’ll be taking the KH1 and the 
> MC-750 for a SOTA activation on Mary’s Peak in the Oregon coast range. 4100 
> feet and a nice little hike. I’m just glad I can still pull this off at age 
> 73…
> Dan Presley 503-701-3871
> @me. com
> n7...@arrl.net
> 
> 
> > laOn Sep 25, 2024, at 21:53, Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > Use your analyzer to lengthen/shorten the radial and calculate the 
> > appropriate counterpoise.  Know that the AX1 antenna design was for direct 
> > connection.  The operator adds capacitance that would lower effective 
> > frequency.  The tuner will let you load anything.  Shut off tuner and work 
> > for lowest reflective power.
> >
> > Bill
> > K9YEQ
> > ________________________________
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> 
> > on behalf of Mike Fatchett W0MU <w...@w0mu.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 7:19:18 PM
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Disappointing Performance
> >
> > You have a small compromised sized antenna and QRP.  Maybe your
> > expectations are a bit off.  Many people seem to do quite well with
> > mobile setups using hustler/hamsticks.  If you are going camping how
> > about a dipole or similar?  Toss a dipole in a tree for 20m is easy.
> > You are wasting your time on 40m in Idaho and probably 30m.
> >
> > W0MU
> >
> >> On 9/25/2024 4:57 PM, Dave (NK7Z) wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> If possible raise the antenna higher.  Add more radials...
> >>
> >> A friend of mine has one of these and we took it out at a portable
> >> station using a KX radio.  It was 6 feet above the ground, and had 6
> >> radials on it, each around 20 or 30 feet long, sloped heading to the
> >> ground.  We used WSPR on it during the big eclipse a few years back,
> >> and it worked really well, hits all over the world on 20... Radials
> >> are the key to making it work better. Being a shortened antenna it
> >> will never work as well as say a 6BTV, but it will work well with a
> >> decent set of radials.
> >>
> >> 73, and thanks,
> >> Dave (NK7Z)
> >> https://www.nk7z.net
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> >> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> >> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> >>
> >> My favorite definition of an intellectual: 'Someone who has been
> >> educated beyond his/her intelligence'.  Arthur C Clarke
> >>
> >>> On 9/25/24 15:17, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote:
> >>> Several months ago I started building up a POTA station, including a
> >>> KX3 (with internal tuner), the AX1 Dual Band Antenna, the AXE1 40
> >>> Meter Extender, and the AXT1 Tripod Adapter. This afternoon I finally
> >>> got the time to see how this antenna plays. I was a bit disappointed.
> >>> Here is the setup:
> >>>
> >>> KX3 (with internal tuner), 25 feet of RG-316 with ferrites on the
> >>> radio end, five foot tall carbon fiber tripod sitting in the middle
> >>> of my back yard; no other resonant antennas on the property.
> >>>
> >>> The KX3 / ATU WAS able to find a match to the antenna on all the
> >>> bands. At first I thought that was great. But being a bit curious, I
> >>> disconnected the coax and hooked up my Rig Expert AA-55 Zoom. Ughhh.
> >>> On 40 meters, with the long radial attached and suspended 4-5 feet
> >>> above the yard, the antennas was resonant at 7.574 MHz - that’s a tad
> >>> more then the +- 200 KHz stated in the specs. And quite ugly for
> >>> where I wanted to operate: 7.052 KHz. So, I added the shorter radial,
> >>> also up above the ground, going a different direction. NO CHANGE to
> >>> the resonant frequency. Yes, I did have the AXE1 installed, and yes I
> >>> had the switch set to the “20m” position.
> >>>
> >>> OK, let’s give 30 meters a try. I set the switch to “17m”, and the
> >>> Rig Expert to 10.116 +- 5 MHz. Yikes - the thing was resonant at
> >>> 8.070 MHz - very long way from 10.116. Adding the short radial
> >>> changed the SWR at that frequency from 1.46:1 down to 1.33:1 but no
> >>> change to resonant frequency.
> >>>
> >>> 20 meters didn’t fare much better. I set the switch to “20m”, removed
> >>> the AXE1, and connected only the short radial. Minimum SWR of 1.34:1
> >>> was seen at 15.330 MHz. At my desired operating frequency of 14.052,
> >>> the SWR was 6.9:1. Not a very good SWR but one that the ATU can
> >>> easily handle.
> >>>
> >>> 17 meters was just as bad. With the short radial it was resonant at
> >>> 19.780 with an SWR of 1.15:1; at 18.116 it showed 6.83:1 SWR. Again,
> >>> something the ATU can deal with, but…..
> >>>
> >>> While I understand that this is a compromise antenna and it isn’t
> >>> going to be spot on on every band, I’m a bit frustrated in what I’m
> >>> seeing here. With five watts output into those kind of SWRs, I’m sure
> >>> I’m loosing quite a bit of my power in heating the coax and the
> >>> modules in the ATU. I hesitate to go out on a maiden POTA activation
> >>> with an antenna showing close to 7:1 SWR at my operating frequencies,
> >>> even though the ATU “corrects” that.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions here? Is this “normal” for the AX1 and AXE1?
> >>>
> >>> Jim Bennett / K7TXA
> >>> Eagle, ID
> >>>
> >>> SKCC #10447T
> >>> B.U.G. #301
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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