Hi Bob,
While agree that the APF could use a bit more gain ( I always end up turning 
up AF Gain once the APF is enabled), I find it leagues ahead of the APF in 
my ex-7700- which I believe had the same APF as the 7800. I even complained 
to Icom about its ineffectiveness. At the time I was running the 7700, I 
also had my Alpha Delta speaker system with its own APF- and there was no 
contest between the two. I thought perhaps there was a problem with my 
7700's APF until I heard from others that also thought it was a useless 
feature on the 7700.

Dale W4OP
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Lanning" <bob.w6...@gmail.com>
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:11 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] APF effectiveness...


> APF ringing and over powering...
>
> I have had input from two Elecraft support fellows one of which was
> helpful.  That being move the receiver off frequency (RIT) about 10Hz
> then adjust the APF center frequency to match.  Some help - yes.
>
> But...
>
> The Elecraft implementation of APF in MCU 4.22 just before the current
> MCU 4.25 needs more work.  The APF in the IC-781 from 1988/9 is much
> more effective with plenty of gain without ringing.  The FT-1000 (early
> production only) and IC-7800 APFs are better than the K3's.  The Yaesu
> MP series I have to admit, is useless.  Elecraft either needs to tweak
> it for perhaps less gain and a little wider BW or give the user the
> tools to do it ourselves.
>
> I hope the folks at Elecraft will put some attention to this feature. it
> can be a powerful tool.
>
> I still find it amazing that this little 9.5 pound K3 sitting next to my
> 52 pound IC-7800 and 51 pound IC-781 is as good and in some cases better
> than either of those radios.  Also nice is power consumption - listening
> on the K3 consumes only 33 watts with an Astron SS-30 while the two
> Icom's consume 100 watts each.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob - W6OPO
>
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