Mark, Very good advice. I normally run the bandwidth about 300HZ listening to the DX. But with the other VFO I open up the bandwidth to at least 1KHZ so I can tune around and more easily find the station the DX is working. After the DX works a few stations hopefully I get the feel of his/her pattern. Then I have an educated guess as to where I should transmit to work them quickly - some DX camp on a frequency until it gets too unruly, some go up or down in slight increments, some jump up or down in fixed increments using memory buttons to keep the rate up. Some even say listening up and purposely listen down to manage the pileups. It sure helps to listen first to find the pattern before just sending into the ether. On SSB it is more difficult with typically wider spread of signals. But you can usually find the pattern there too. And the P3 helps with this too to find the station the DX is working if out of your bandwidth.
The K3 is very easy to use SPLIT. I have programmed PF1 for SPLIT, same MODE, up 2KHZ. Sure beats the way we used to do it in the day of tube rigs and even some of the newer SS rigs. ST0R - 8 bands so far. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Stennett Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:14 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R I have used this split technique quite successfully and the K3 makes it a breeze. The first secret is to wear your headphones. Put the K3 in split and you will hear the main receiver in your left ear while the right ear now has the sub receiver. Set up your filters to your liking. Listen on the main receiver and transmit on the sub receiver. Park the main receiver on the DX and lock the dial so you don't accidentally bump it. Slowly tune the sub receiver up the dial from the DX until you start to hear the other stations the DX is working. Determine if there is a pattern by continuing to listen - is the DX working stations further up the dial after each contact? Down the dial? Listening on the same frequency call after call? Read the mail, get familiar with his style. The second secret is timing. To work the DX through the pileup you have to put your signal where the DX is listening at that moment. By figuring out his operating style you have a distinct advantage over most of those ops who are blindly calling. Because of the pileup the DX likely has his receiver running narrow. Zero beat your transmit VFO with the guy he is working and drop your call as soon as he is finished. If the DX is moving up the dial after each contact, move your VFO slightly above that guy and make your call. Try to anticipate where the DX will be listening next. While I have not tried for ST0R yet I have broken through many pileups on my first or second call, using the KPA500, a vertical dipole on CW and this technique. 73 de na6m On 07/31/2011 07:38 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote: > Bob, > > I have never understood this whole split operation setup much less > figuring out how to listen to someone working split and doing what you > stated below. > > Would you please try and explain it to me. Others have tried but for > some reason i just dont get it, or it wont sink in. > > I was on the radio yesterday and saw many folks calling ST0R and figured > that wont work so well. > > Thanks > > ~73 > Don > KD8NNU > > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:22 AM, bob finger wrote: > >> I have been fascinated reading this thread. Listening to the ST0R >> operation on many bands has been interesting to say the least. You >> all that complain about the radio not automatically going into split >> really don't have a clue. The K3 makes working rare dx a relatively >> simple task, from the radio perspective at least. Antennas help too >> of course. >> >> One of the first rules of chasing dx in a split pile-up is knowing >> where the dx is listening. You can't learn that if you are not in >> split before you ever make a call! Listen! Find out how he is >> operating and where he is listening. Once you know that simple fact >> getting in the log is pretty easy. 90% of the callers in the ST0R >> pile are calling blind, and wasting their time and energy. Be one of >> the 10% that think before transmitting and you will be in the log. >> The guys at ST0R are super fine ops. Wish I could say the same for >> everyone calling. I have spent many hours listening to ST0R, have >> them in the log wherever I wanted and have a TOTAL trasmit time of >> maybe 5 or 6 minutes. I've been listening for maybe 10 or 12 hours. >> I used the amp on 20, because that is the band that counts for me. >> Other band q's were with the k3 barefoot running only about 50 watts. >> Its a bit more of a challenge that way for me. 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