You can do this with RIT/XIT also but not as elegantly as with a second 
receiver running in split.

You are correct in your assessment.

On 07/31/2011 09:05 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
> I dont have the two receivers so that is the first thing that puts me at
> a disadvantage.
>
> However, when someone is spotted and they say for example "2.4 UP", I
> assume that means something split. So if I listen on VFO A that would be
> their transmitt frq and I would transmitt on VFO B up 2.4 khz or do I
> have it backwards?
>
> Thanks
>
> ~73
> Don
> KD8NNU
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Mark Stennett wrote:
>
>> I have used this split technique quite successfully and the K3 makes
>> it a breeze.
>>
>> The first secret is to wear your headphones. Put the K3 in split and
>> you will hear the main receiver in your left ear while the right ear
>> now has the sub receiver. Set up your filters to your liking.
>>
>> Listen on the main receiver and transmit on the sub receiver. Park the
>> main receiver on the DX and lock the dial so you don't accidentally
>> bump it. Slowly tune the sub receiver up the dial from the DX until
>> you start to hear the other stations the DX is working. Determine if
>> there is a pattern by continuing to listen - is the DX working
>> stations further up the dial after each contact? Down the dial?
>> Listening on the same frequency call after call? Read the mail, get
>> familiar with his style.
>>
>> The second secret is timing. To work the DX through the pileup you
>> have to put your signal where the DX is listening at that moment. By
>> figuring out his operating style you have a distinct advantage over
>> most of those ops who are blindly calling. Because of the pileup the
>> DX likely has his receiver running narrow. Zero beat your transmit VFO
>> with the guy he is working and drop your call as soon as he is
>> finished. If the DX is moving up the dial after each contact, move
>> your VFO slightly above that guy and make your call. Try to anticipate
>> where the DX will be listening next.
>>
>> While I have not tried for ST0R yet I have broken through many pileups
>> on my first or second call, using the KPA500, a vertical dipole on CW
>> and this technique.
>>
>> 73 de na6m
>>
>>
>> On 07/31/2011 07:38 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> I have never understood this whole split operation setup much less
>>> figuring out how to listen to someone working split and doing what you
>>> stated below.
>>>
>>> Would you please try and explain it to me. Others have tried but for
>>> some reason i just dont get it, or it wont sink in.
>>>
>>> I was on the radio yesterday and saw many folks calling ST0R and figured
>>> that wont work so well.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> ~73
>>> Don
>>> KD8NNU
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:22 AM, bob finger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been fascinated reading this thread. Listening to the ST0R
>>>> operation on many bands has been interesting to say the least. You
>>>> all that complain about the radio not automatically going into split
>>>> really don't have a clue. The K3 makes working rare dx a relatively
>>>> simple task, from the radio perspective at least. Antennas help too
>>>> of course.
>>>>
>>>> One of the first rules of chasing dx in a split pile-up is knowing
>>>> where the dx is listening. You can't learn that if you are not in
>>>> split before you ever make a call! Listen! Find out how he is
>>>> operating and where he is listening. Once you know that simple fact
>>>> getting in the log is pretty easy. 90% of the callers in the ST0R
>>>> pile are calling blind, and wasting their time and energy. Be one of
>>>> the 10% that think before transmitting and you will be in the log.
>>>> The guys at ST0R are super fine ops. Wish I could say the same for
>>>> everyone calling. I have spent many hours listening to ST0R, have
>>>> them in the log wherever I wanted and have a TOTAL trasmit time of
>>>> maybe 5 or 6 minutes. I've been listening for maybe 10 or 12 hours.
>>>> I used the amp on 20, because that is the band that counts for me.
>>>> Other band q's were with the k3 barefoot running only about 50 watts.
>>>> Its a bit more of a challenge that way for me. Okay off soapbox now.
>>>> 73 bob de w9ge
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