6 weeks ago I had a machine built to a high spec, I asked for Win XP Pro, but
got a call saying Microsoft don't supply a stand alone xp pro os software
anymore.
When I picked up my new PC the builder said MS supplied an official OS software
disc with XP Pro and with licensed Win7 software onboard.
Ken..G0ORH
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On 21 Oct 2011, at 04:13, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <li...@subich.com> wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> I was specifically speaking to *new* installations ... try to find
> a fresh copy of Windows XP - particularly Windows XP Professional
> which is the only version worth having - for sale at any reputable
> dealer. You certainly will not find it at New Egg or Tiger Direct.
>
> Second, I don't know where people are coming up with an end of
> support date in 2014 for Windows XP. This Microsoft site
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/end-support says:
> "Support for Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2) ended on July 13, 2010.*"
>
> Considering that new Windows 7 systems with 2 GHz dual or quad core
> processors and 4 GB of RAM are regularly available for less than
> $500, I don't understand why anyone would spend more than half that
> for a 500 MB/1 GHz single core system with Windows XP ... it simply
> is not long term thinking. The recycled XP box will have no support
> and gather dust while the higher performance system is still a
> mainstream performer.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 10/20/2011 10:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> What you say is partially correct (it all depends on your definition of
>> "dead"). WinXP is still supported for security updates from Microsoft.
>> Although, MS will no longer answer specific questions relating to WinXP,
>> they are still providing "support" in the form of security updates.
>>
>> While I can agree that official support for a particular OS may be
>> important, to some hams who want to run "legacy" applications, that is
>> not possible with Win7 because it prevents applications from storing
>> into their application folder - instead, insist that that data be stored
>> into each users Documents and Settings folder.
>>
>> Which is better - it all depends on what you want to do. If the author
>> for the application that you wish to use is "worth his salt", then the
>> most recent download of that application will work on Win7 - and will
>> likely run on WinXP (there may be exceptions). But if the application
>> author has not been keeping up with updates in the MS OS migration
>> )"legacy applications"), those applications may work under WinXP and
>> fail under Win7.
>>
>> So each user must make a choice of the OS to be used. Make that choice
>> based on your need for legacy applications - if you have no need for
>> those, then Win7 is the clear winner. I stick with WinXP for reasons
>> unrelated to this discussion.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 10/20/2011 8:48 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you are serious about doing digital modes, I would highly
>>>> recommend a dedicated PC for the hamshack, and I would further
>>>> recommend a desktop running Windows XP. Most all ham applications
>>>> will run on XP, but some have trouble on Vista or Win7.
>>>
>>> I would strongly urge anyone considering a new computer installation
>>> to give up on Windows XP. XP is a "dead" operating system - it has
>>> been out of support by Microsoft for more than a year. Any developer
>>> worth his salt is no longer coding for XP and many current releases
>>> have features not supported on XP (if the software will even load
>>> and run).
>>>
>>> In spite of it's differences in audio handling, Windows 7 is much
>>> more stable and capable than Windows XP ... Vista is not worth
>>> having on any system.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/20/2011 8:11 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> If you are serious about doing digital modes, I would highly recommend a
>>>> dedicated PC for the hamshack, and I would further recommend a desktop
>>>> running Windows XP. Most all ham applications will run on XP, but some
>>>> have trouble on Vista or Win7. A desktop allows you to install real
>>>> serial ports (which work better than USB adapters, and support multiple
>>>> soundcards.
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest a re-furbished off-lease PC - they are often available
>>>> with WinXP Pro and are priced in the $200 range (monitor not included).
>>>> I particularly like the IBM desktops, but there are many others that
>>>> will serve quite well - one source is www.tigerdirect.com. For most ham
>>>> applications a 1.5 GHz processor with 512MB (or 1 GB) of RAM and a 40 GB
>>>> Hard drive is plenty of 'horsepower' - yes, there are some combinations
>>>> of applications, like HRD with LP Bridge and PowerSDR that will bog that
>>>> size computer down, but most ham applications will run with ease.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2011 1:29 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>>>> I don't have a dedicated ham shack PC. My one laptop serves multiple
>>>>> purposes and not fiddling with the audio to ensure it is properly
>>>>> setup for
>>>>> PSK would be nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim ab3cv
>>>>>
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