Dave,

Please understand that my audio recording need has nothing to do with my K3
or with ham radio. The USB/RS232 line connecting the computer with the K3 is
there, but the K3 is powered down. And I have no bonding between the chassis
of the two. I never had a problem, but then I never tried to record radio
output on the computer, and I never tried to feed a computer voice recording
to the K3. I have done some PSK, using a previous desktop computer as well
as the old laptop, but then I was always using a homebuilt interface that
contains isolation transformers. Yes I know, overkill, but that interface
was built before I got the K3. I am currently not interested in doing PSK or
other digital modes again, but when I get the urge, I will probably have
purchased an external soundcard that will be better than the current
computer's motherboard-integrated audio. Just for fun, because you seem to
focus on it, I made an experiment: I disconnected the RS-232 from the
computer by unplugging its USB. Then I made a recording using a dynamic
microphone and found the same noise as before. The powered speakers were
disconnected from the computer during the recording. Still connected were
other items such as monitor, keyboard, mouse, two printers and wired
Ethernet. It would certainly be possible to test with more stuff
disconnected, but that is all I have time for right now. 

When you mention twang on the audio, I assume you were recording the audio
on the computer while using the noise reduction associated with its
microphone input? That is the only condition under which I hear the twang
(and then it replaces the noise). If I turn the noise reduction off, the
twang disappears and the noise comes back.

Erik K7TV

 

David Gilbert wrote:

 

OK, now that sounds a lot like the issues I had when I first began using
pre-recorded .wav files for contesting.  I got several reports of "hum",
"noise", or "whine" on my transmitted signal ... all of which went away when
I disconnected the RS-232 cable from between the computer and the K3.  As I
have mentioned several times here before, it took a very short piece of
shielded braid between the chassis of the K3 and the chassis of the computer
to fix it so that I could reconnect the RS-232 cable without issues.  I
started with a couple of feet of braid and had to go all the way down to
eight inches before I could no longer notice the problem.  

You don't say what measures you've taken to bond the chassis of your K3 to
your computer, but that would be my first suggestion.  Your symptoms sound
almost identical ... even with respect to the noise during pauses and the
metallic twang at the end of words.

Regarding sound cards for SDR use, certainly the great majority of cards out
there would have major deficiencies ... most especially for noise, but also
for dynamic range and sampling rate.  And as you say, many don't even have
stereo inputs.  N8LP keeps a list of recommended cards on his web site with
good information on the pros and cons of each.

73,
Dave   AB7E



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