Bill, W4ZV wrote: Over flat terrain, a dipole up ~1/2 wavelength has 7-8 dB gain over a vertical at typical 30 degree takeoff angles. On a mountain top, the TOA goes down because the effective height is raised.
--------------------------------------------------- When people say "vertical", they usually mean a 1/4 wavelength (or less) radiator. Such verticals are HUGELY dependent upon the ground return for their efficiency. There's been an on-going argument about that since Marconi hisself was tinkering with them, but that standard for comparison is that a 1/4 wave radiator should have something on the order of 50 to 100 0.2 wave radials if it's going to be comparable of a 1/2 wave radiator. That's not to say an vertical is always inefficient, but that one can't really assess how efficient it is when using other ground systems and locations. The only exception to that is a vertical over salt water, as in at sea on a ship. Short of such a massive ground system, a decent comparison with a horizontal 1/2 wave radiator can only be made with a vertical 1/2 wave radiator (or at least with radiators of the same physical length if both are less than 1/2 wave). Even then there will be huge differences based on the propagation involved, although on HF it's far less than VHF and above. On HF, reflection/refraction of the wave in the ionosphere pretty well rotates and mixes the polarization. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com