I like it. This would make more sense in some cases. Right now ERR BAT  
is just a generic error covering battery voltage both too low and too  
high.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Oct 18, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Donald Butler wrote:

> Thanks for the tip Wayne . I obviously have not given NiMH's a fair  
> test
> yet, so will definitely give them a try..
>
> I do have a minor suggestion for the KXBC3:  Like others I've gotten  
> the
> "BAT ERR" message when attempting to initiate a charge cycle on a
> battery pack that is already charged .. why not change the message  
> with
> that scenario to something more positive like "BAT FUL"?
>
> Don, N5LZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:47 PM
> To: Don Butler
> Cc: 'Elecraft List'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 and Batteries
>
>
> Don,
>
> Thanks for the report. One difference in my experience: the voltage
> drop on key-down for the nonrechargeable lithiums is quite a bit
> higher than for NiMH. As a result, I got more TX time at 5 W with
> NiMH. They're also a lot more convenient since you can leave them in
> the radio and charge them.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Don Butler wrote:
>
>> I have my new KXBC3 installed in KX3 S/N 125, and all seems to be
>> working as
>> it should.  I'm definitely glad to have it, but must admit that I
>> was very
>> content with the KX3 without it.  The ability to easily monitor
>> battery
>> voltage and select the charging time is very nice.  And the internal
>> clock
>> is a great feature also, and will be very slick for getting QSOs
>> accurately
>> logged while out in the bush!
>>
>> It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to become super knit-picky about
>> batteries, and I'm not going to do that, but I do plan to continue
>> using
>> non-rechargeable Lithium batteries for my occasional mountain top
>> hikes.
>> They definitely provide more punch than the NiMH variety, and, thus
>> far have
>> always seemed capable of supporting a few good hours of operation
>> while
>> using a solid 5.0 watts on transmit.  They're also much lighter than
>> NiMH ..
>> My KX3 (without paddle) with 8 AA lithium batteries installed weighs
>> 31 oz.,
>> but when it's loaded with 8 AA NiMH batteries it weighs 3.5 oz more:
>> 34.5
>> oz.  (that's an 11.3% weight increase).  That may not seem like
>> much, but
>> when you're carrying a backpack up a steep hill every little bit
>> does make a
>> difference to a 69 year old geezer like me.
>>
>> For everyday KX3 operation I've been using a small external power
>> supply
>> (the Radio Shack 3 amp switcher).. Or a big heavy deep cycle battery
>> that I
>> sometimes haul in my truck.. So for normal use I'll keep a set of  
>> NiMH
>> batteries installed, and keep them charged and ready with the
>> KXBC3  . but
>> before my next hike they'll be replaced by Lithiums with the menu
>> appropriately configured to 'CHG OFF'.
>>
>> Don, N5LZ
>>
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