I'd check the accuracy of the meter, with nearly 20A being drawn on TX, I'd 
expect 100W out of the rig...

Best regards, Tim Hague
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On 24 Dec 2012, at 16:51, Ian Kahn - Ham <km4ik....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don/all,
> 
> It is highly possible the culprit is my RigRunner, purchased in March of this 
> year.  When I took it out of line, the voltage drop went from over 4V on tx 
> to under 2V (13.8V down to about 12V). Current draw is .78 to .82 amps on rx 
> and 19.8 amps on tx. However, while the internal power meter shows 100W, an 
> external meter into a dummy load only shows 70 watts out.  The current and 
> voltage readings look normal, according to Rev. D10 of the owner's manual.  
> But I'm still concerned about a 30W drop at the output. Anyone have any other 
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks, 73, es Merry Christmas.
> 
> --Ian
> 
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA  EM74ua
> km4ik....@gmail.com
> K3 #281, P3 #688
> HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
> 
> On 12/24/2012 10:46 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Ian,
>> 
>> With that much voltage drop, I would strongly recommend you look at your 
>> power supply and the power cable to the K3.
>> 
>> First measure the drop while transmitting right at the power supply.  If you 
>> have significant sag there, either your power supply is marginal or the 
>> output terminals at its output may not be tight (on most power supplies that 
>> means the inner nut is loose.  Also make sure the cable is tightly clamped 
>> at the power supply end.
>> 
>> At the K3 end, examine the APP connector.  Look into the end and make sure 
>> the contact blade is fully latched over the spring finger.  If the APP feels 
>> like it is not holding to the mating connector on the K3 with adequate 
>> pressure, then suspect incorrect assembly of one or the other of the APP 
>> connectors (check the APP mounted on the K3 too).
>> 
>> The conductors in the power cable should be of an adequate size to carry the 
>> current.  US wire gauge #12 conductors or larger should be used.  That is 
>> what is supplied by Elecraft.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 12/24/2012 10:18 AM, Ian Kahn - Ham wrote:
>>> Update on my low output issue:
>>> 
>>> I ran the TX Gain Calibration this morning, and everything passed with 
>>> flying colors.
>>> 
>>> I am seeing about a 4-4.5V drop across the radio when going from rx to tx.  
>>> Rx voltage sits at 13.8V, but when I transmit, voltage across the rig drops 
>>> to between 9 and 9.5V.
>>> 
>>> All tests performed while tuned into a 300W dummy load.
>>> 
>>> Before I tear into my rig and start looking for corroded tin pins on the PA 
>>> board (K3 #281, so unlikely the board was replaced/mod performed), is there 
>>> anything else I should test while my station is still all together in one 
>>> piece?
>>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone for the assistance, and Merry Christmas!
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> --Ian
>>> 
>>> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
>>> Roswell, GA  EM74ua
>>> km4ik....@gmail.com
>>> K3 #281, P3 #688
>>> HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
>>> 
>>> On 12/23/2012 5:07 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>>> Chuck,
>>>> 
>>>> It could - defer decisions on that until after doing the TX Gain 
>>>> Calibration.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/23/2012 5:01 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>>>>> Could it be/affect a 40% difference?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chuck, KE9UW
>>>>> Lionel Trains, TCA, LCCA, LRRC
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