Lightweight and ultralight backpackers talk about the weights of the "big 
three": shelter, sleep, and pack. Under three pounds for each is lightweight, 
under two pounds is ultralight. Total pack weight will be about double the 
weight of the big three. If you add a fourth category for technical gear 
(radio, photography, birding, ...) you could use the same levels.

For example, I carry about four pounds of camera equipment on most backpacking 
trips. I make up for that with a 1.5 pound two-person tent.

The four-pound challenge is a great idea, though I've switched to metric for 
packing lists because I have so much sub-ounce gear. Let's see, the Yamaha CM 
500 is 300g, but the MH3 is 138g and the Apple earbuds are ??. Time to get out 
the scale.

wunder
K6WRU

On Apr 28, 2013, at 5:40 PM, kevinr wrote:

> You could use the multiplier of 1 / 4# .   A 1 pound total rig would land you 
> a mult of 4x.  Imagine getting down into the oz rig range; the multiplier 
> would be very good for even a few contacts.  It may get down to tapping wires 
> to attain the least possible weight. Using one's own lunch to provide power 
> would be extra.  Remember to take a few limes along with the copper and zinc 
> strips.
>   73,
>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
> 
> On 4/28/2013 4:50 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote:
>> I understand and support the idea of lighter weight, more fun. That said, do 
>> we want to establish the 4# figure as "it?" Seems that anything under 10# is 
>> in the spirit of lighter/funner. I don't know the weights, but suppose I 
>> take my K2, an external tuner ['cause I don't have the K2 internal tuner], 
>> appropriate battery(ies), some sort of wire antenna, and a support [no trees 
>> where I'm going], I'm probably over 4# yet sit "light weight." It's sort of 
>> like the 5W QRP standard. Why not 10w and under? Why not 1W and under? 
>> Granted, it's unmanageable to have a "class" for every pound under some 
>> figure. That said, perhaps we could "weight" some "light" configurations and 
>> find the middle point, or some such figure, and then determine "classes" 
>> from there. Just a thought. Like the general idea very much.
>> ...robert
>> 
>> On 4/27/2013 07:39, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>> Intriguing idea.  In my case it will take the form of a lightweight
>>> psk-31 station.  Our local club does FD every year so I may just use one
>>> of their antennas or rig a 20m dipole (probably a sloper).  I will break
>>> the 4# barrier by bringing my old P90 IBM thinkpad that has a psk-31
>>> program and this will force me to make up a soundcard I/F for the KX3.
>>> I have a pile of 12v 4AH gelcells which will suffice for power. Our
>>> club call is AL7LE but there is some talk of using a better callsign of
>>> one of the members (might be KL7RA).
>>> 
>>> Back in 2005 (I think) I set up a FD psk-31 station using my FT-847 and
>>> the same laptop.  It was powered with a 30w solar panel + diehard
>>> deep-cycle marine battery.  My antenna was a 20m mobile whip.  I was set
>>> up in 20-minutes while the club usually takes about 2-hours to get the
>>> first station running.  Club name is the Moosehorn ARC.
>>> 
>>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>>> 
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