Figure 1, Page 4, KAT500 manual


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.

*70 is the new 40.*
*
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On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <r...@cobi.biz> wrote:

> Where do you see two DB15 cables in a diagram Brian?
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian F. Wruble
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 4:57 PM
> To: Cady, Fred
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receive Attenuation with KPA500 in Operate
>
> F
> red, thanks.  I am using that cable both places where my diagram says "DB15
> Cable".
>
> I guess I needed to have invested in only one.
>
> Everything seems to work, and the tuner protection works as well.  I proved
> that by lowering K3 output power to 5 watts (just to be safe), allowing the
> KPA500 to key and asking the KAT500 to re-tune.  it refuses to do so.  That
> is the right result.
>
> 73,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>
> *70 is the new 40.*
> *
> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
> eFax  305.768.0278
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Cady, Fred <fc...@ece.montana.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi Brian,
> > Make sure you are using a KPAK3AUX cable somewhere between the K3 and
> > the KPA500. It can be between the K3 and the KAT or the KAT and the
> > KPA.  You can use a full DE15HD cable other places but the KPAK3AUX
> > cable needs to be in there somewhere.
> > Cheers,
> > Fred KE7X
> > "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation"
> > "The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the Summit"
> > (soon - "The Elecraft K-Line - KPA500 and KAT500")
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:
> > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian F. Wruble
> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 4:17 PM
> > To: d...@w3fpr.com
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receive Attenuation with KPA500 in Operate
> >
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > Thanks for the prompt response.
> >
> > Yes, I am using the DB15 and the PTT line.  I got it working.  Here is
> > my new cable lineup:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.  ACC on K3 (DB15) >>> DB15 Y Cable | >>>DB15 Cable >>> "XCVR"
> > (DB15) On
> > KAT500
> >                                                                   |
> >                                                       And      | >>>
> "ACC"
> > on Navigator Interface
> >
> >
> > 2.  "RS232" on K3 >>> "XCVR" (RS232) on P3
> >
> >
> > 3.  "PC" on P3 >>> "RS232" on Navigator Interface
> >
> >
> > 4.  "AMP" on KAT500 (DB15) >>> DB15 Cable >>> "AUX1" (DB15) on KPA500
> >
> > 5.  NO PTT LINE into KPA500 or into KAT500
> >
> > 6. No "Key Line Interupter" anyplace.
> >
> >
> > With this lineup, is the KAT500 protected from the KPA500 keying when
> > the
> > KAT500 is tuning?
> >
> > I must admit, I have mightily confused myself in this process.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Brian W3BW
> >
> >
> >
> > *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
> >
> > *70 is the new 40.*
> > *
> > Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
> > Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
> > 21930 eFax  305.768.0278
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > I have heard this before, and as I recall it has to do with the DB15
> > > cable and the PTT cable when used together.
> > >
> > > Are you using the PTT cable in addition to the cable from the K3 ACC
> > > cable?  If so, pin 10 of the cable should not be included.  See the
> > > note on page 8 of the KAT500 manual.
> > >
> > > Normally you would not have to use the PTT cable with the K3.  See
> > > pages 3 and 4 of the KAT500 manual.  For this arrangement, piin 10
> > > of the ACC cable must be present.
> > >
> > > If you have other devices that need access ti the K3 Key Out line,
> > > you would use the PTT cable AND use the key line interrupter to
> > > disconnect pin 10 from the DB15 Interface cable without the need for
> > > removing pin
> > 10. .
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Don W3FPR
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/1/2013 4:30 PM, Brian F. Wruble wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all:
> > >>
> > >> I am running a newly assembled "K-Line" --- K3/100, KPA500 and KAT500.
> > >>  The
> > >> K3 is pretty "loaded" with KRX3, KAT3, KXV3A, etc.
> > >>
> > >> I just noticed that received signals are down 4 S-units when the
> > >> KPA500 is in Operate.  In Standby, signals pop right up.
> > >>
> > >> Reading past reflector emails on the topic, I found one thread that
> > >> suggested this may have to do with the state of the KPA500 PTT.  I
> > >> found that pulling the PTT RCA plug out ended the problem.
> > >>
> > >> Then I replaced the PTT plug, and still had no problem.  However,
> > >> once I actually transmitted, and the PTT acted to key the KPA500,
> > >> the problem recurred >>> Low sigs when the amp is in Operate, Full
> > >> sigs when in Standby.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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