I must say, I'm glad this thread is out there.  I'm in my mid 30's, and as
prior military and current law enforcement (thus the call) I have had my
fair share of "bangs" next to my ears. The xyl is already complaining about
my hearing, and I have to admit, my hearing isn't  what it once was. I'm so
happy the USMC gave us hearing protection hihi. I really haven't thought
much about hearing aids but know I'm destined for them. I didn't realize
until this thread that hearing aids were that advanced. One of my concerns
was if I would be able to hear the radio in my retirement years. The
reality is I may need hearing aids before retirement years. But I feel
better about it now. I'm sure what ever aids I end up wearing will work
perfectly with my future K5 or whatever K# we're at.


Maybe by then the technology will be so advanced that the K line will sense
what we're thinking via ESP ( hint hint Wayne hihi) and convert it to CW
and vice versa.

But Gents, on a serious note, keep us younger hams informed on how hearing
aids work, or anything else for that matter, because one day we'll be there
as well, and at that point all we can do is pass down the knowledge we have
to the next generation and keep the spirit of Amateur Radio alive.

73,

Steve KS6PD

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013, Al Lorona wrote:

> Nope, sorry it was me that wasn't clear. I did indeed mean audio bandwidth.
>
> Look at any AM station with your P3 -- it will be easy to measure the
> bandwidth. I rarely if ever see anything less than 7 kHz (14 kHz total BW)
> for an HD station, higher for all-analog stations.
>
> Al  W6LX
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Ron D'Eau Claire <r...@cobi.biz <javascript:;>>
> >To: 'Al Lorona' <alor...@sbcglobal.net <javascript:;>>;
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 8:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Hearing aids, meet K3
> >
> >
> >Right Al, it takes 10 kHz of RF bandwidth with A.M. to produce 5 kHz of
> >audio bandwidth after demodulation.
> >
> >I thought my comment was clear in context. The thread was about the
> >desired/necessary audio bandwidth. My apologies for the confusion. I
> should
> >have said "audio bandwidth".
> >
> >73, Ron AC7AC
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>
> >[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Al
> Lorona
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:48 PM
> >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>
> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Hearing aids, meet K3
> >
> >That is the common misconception. Actually most AM stations go out to at
> >least 10 and often 12 kHz (look on your P3). The exceptions are the
> stations
> >transmitting an HD signal -- they are necessarily band-limited to 7 kHz. I
> >boycott HD stations for that reason. I can tell the difference on a good
> >wideband receiver.
> >
> >I know this because I went through it in the pre-HD days with my senior
> >advisor who had the common misconception. Even after I proved him wrong
> (by
> >actually telephoning the chief engineers of KFI and KNX) he still gave me
> a
> >'D' on my senior project. Sour grapes.
> >
> >Al  W6LX
> >
> >
> >A recent report in "Radio World" notes that most analog A.M. broadcast
> >>receivers today have a bandwidth of less than 5 kHz.
> >>
> >>
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