One Ham's Experience: Good News: The LiPoly I got (local RC hobby shop) was just great! I did not deplete it on our cruise thru the Panama Canal, maybe 6 hours operating time (mostly listening and no CQ's), but I did rag chew a bit with a number of SA stns. Ran a Spartan Sprint after return without recharging just to see if I could. Voltage stayed nearly constant until full discharge, at which point it dropped quickly. As quickly, I recharged it on a MAHA 77.

Bad News: It worked again very well in the next Spartan. Then I got busy, and didn't check it for perhaps 5 months. At N6A (Alpine County, CQP), I tried it our before the contest, and it was toast. They are extremely light (a factor in Spartan, but I wonder in a back pack), they seem good, but they are expensive, and I've heard they die in a year or so, regardless of how you use them.

WAYNE: To your basic questions -- I wouldn't spend much (or any) time adapting the KX1 to LiPo. Mine came with tinned leads on which I put a coax plug. The expense is a real downer. The difference in power between 6 and 8 AA NiMH's seems minimal. Yes, Alkaline dry cells do have a non-flat discharge curve, but you can get an bunch of them at Costco or Sam's and they're what I generally use. I think the weight of the additional batteries is overshadowed by the weight of the solar panel and regulator for those who really do back-pack (I did but I don't anymore -- too old).

I know you have to keep up with technology and the ever-increasing demand for "one more feature," but I would caution against messing around with a success, which my KX1 is right now. Besides, we're "amateurs," and you have to leave us something to mess around with!

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw


wayne burdick wrote:
We've located a 4-AAA cell battery holder that would fit inside the KX1 (one at each end of the bottom cover, as with the present AA holders). 8 cells would provide 10 or 12 volts, giving you significantly more power output than 6 of the same cells (as much as 4 watts). The tradeoff would be in battery life. AAA-size NiMH, alkaline and lithium cells provide around 1000 to 1250 mA-hours, or around half as much as similar high-capacity AA cells.

Another option would be to use a small lithium polymer battery. 11 volts at up to 1450 mA-hours or so might be possible, although these batteries are very expensive. AAAs might be preferable in a pinch because you can buy them anywhere. In the field, you can borrow triple-As from flashlights or other portable electronic devices. The difference in weight between 8 triple As and a LiPo battery is probably only couple of ounces, so weight is not likely to be the primary criteria.

You'd probably get five to eight hours of casual operation with NiMH, LiPo, or lithium cells, which are preferable to alkalines because of their flat discharge curve. Of course you could recharge NiMH or LiPo cells in the field with a small solar panel. (Has anyone tried using 8 AAA cells with the KX1?)

We could (in theory) create a new bottom cover option for the KX1 that would include two 4-cell AAA holders or a LiPo battery, plus a charge controller that would run from the KX1's DC input jack. The battery holders and charge controller components could be soldered to a thin PCB module that runs the full length of the bottom cover. In the case of AAAs, we'd include a switch to select rechargeable or non-rechargeable batteries. You might be able to recharge while operating, although this would have to be tested, since some charge controller generate significant noise.

Any input on such a product would be appreciated. If there were significant interest, we'd try to have it ready early next year.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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