But can he hear you? It is quite common for stations on the same frequency not to be able to hear each other. It could be due to power differential, propagation conditions, or other similar situations. If you are running very low power, but with a received (such as the K3) that matches very well with a high power transmitter, you may be able to hear someone who simply cannot hear your low-power signal. To then blame them for the situation you face doesn’t make sense.
Come join us in contesting and you will encounter this on a regular basis, where shifts in propagation over time will turn a completely clear frequency shared by two stations into a complete mess where the stations QRM each other. Eventually one (or both) will have to QSY to get their rate going again. This is just one of the situations that makes things both fun and challenging. 73! Jack B, W6FB > On Dec 2, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey <jtho...@liberty.edu> wrote: > > The band plans work better when operators actually abide by "using only the > power required to make contact." In fact, the band plans might much less > important if operators would bother to follow the "power rule." > Friends and I, who do happen to live fairly close, can (and do) actually talk > using .1-.2W (yes, those are decimal points) on 40m, NVIS. It is really > irritating to get stomped on by some jerk(s) running several hundred watts to > talk when they're less than 200 miles away, as happens here in southern AZ. > > Jeff - kg7hdz > > > >> On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft >> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >> I would say to use the Bandplan of the country that you are licensed in >> it is a simple matter of courtesy to be considerate of those who do not care >> to contest >> >> >> From: brian <als...@nc.rr.com> >> To: Harry Yingst <hlyin...@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 4:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices >> >> Harry, >> >> Which bandplan? There are many. EU bandplans are different from Asian >> band plans for example. There are also many groups/modes/nets etc who >> plop themselves down anywhere and declare that frequency theirs. Then >> they bemoan interference? >> >> If you really look at the band plans, it would take a superhuman to >> avoid all the little niches. >> >> Also what you see is a reflection of too little space available. RTTY >> contests are a good example. Do you really think it can be constrained >> to be within 14080 and 14090? >> >> 73 de Brian/K3KO >> >>> On 12/1/2014 21:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: >>> I would also like to add pay attention to the bandplan >>> Many are NOT contesting and it spoils there enjoyment when contesters >>> encroach on them while they are operating. >>> Examples: CW or RTTy being run on top of the JT65 Guys or SSB Voice on top >>> of the SSTV guys. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ken G Kopp <kengk...@gmail.com> >>> To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:01 PM >>> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices >>> >>> Jim is speaks the truth..... >>> >>> While the premise of beginning a transmission with "DE" ... or the called >>> station's call ... may be "correct", in practice it assures one first place >>> in the "lid" line. >>> >>> 5NN is the only "cut" number that's acceptable to me, too. >>> >>> In the contesting arena time is all-important! Seconds saved count. FD, >>> especially, brings out every lid-ism. It's actually easy to have one ... >>> or more ... contest QSO's while waiting for a "please copy my number". Add >>> another QSO in the log for "good luck in the contest" babble. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Ken Kopp - K0PP >>>> On Dec 1, 2014 11:30 AM, "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon,12/1/2014 5:52 AM, d...@lightstream.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But PLEASE DO develop the habit of using the characters "DE" to preface >>>>> the sending of your callsign, whether calling CQ or in exchange with >>>>> another station. >>>> NO, NO, NO! (CAPS added for emphasis). When a contester (or DXpedition) is >>>> running (calling CQ), we EXPECT to hear YOUR callsign, and we start typing >>>> that call in the entry window. Lots of calls begin with D, so when someone >>>> sends DE, we must backspace. DON'T send his call first -- he knows his call >>>> -- only send yours. Same problem with typing. Further, sending the old CW >>>> elements like DE, K, KN, and QSL during a contest are time-wasters >>>> equivalent to "please copy" on SSB. Most good contesters use "TU" or "R" >>>> and end a QSO by sending "TU" followed by their callsign. >>>> >>>> Another rule -- NEVER resend anything that the other station has copied >>>> correctly. If the other station sent your call correctly when he responded >>>> to you, don't send it again. Send it again ONLY if you think he got it >>>> wrong. >>>> >>>> Count me among those who HATE cut numbers other than for 5NN. >>>> >>>> 73, Jim K9YC >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to kengk...@gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to als...@nc.rr.com >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4223/8663 - Release Date: 12/01/14 >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jtho...@liberty.edu > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
