“I think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.”

Until the Linux folks make the installation of new hardware as easy as it is on 
Windows I don’t think it will ever happen.

I tried to build the drivers for my serial card, network USB device, and 
network serial server, and after spending a couple of days trying to figure it 
out I gave up.  I don’t have an extensive software background, but I do have 
some programming experience with *nix systems.  If you have a simple hardware 
setup it might be ok but throw in anything unusual and it’s hopeless.  And then 
add in things like rotator controls (Windows only) and there is little chance 
it will ever work.

The next major release of the logger I use (DXLog.net) is going to support 
Linux (and probably OSX) but without the third party hardware support I won’t 
be changing.

I know people like to bad mouth Windows but the vast majority of stations out 
there are running it very successfully. I just don’t see any advantages to 
changing at the moment.

Ken K6MR


From: Matt Murphy<mailto:m...@nq6n.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 21:09
To: a45wg<mailto:-unkno...@sy-edm.com>
Cc: Dauer, Edward<mailto:eda...@law.du.edu>; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

I'll chime in because this is something I've wondered about...

N1MM+ is written in Microsoft's .NET framework.  Recently this became a
cross-platform framework, and so theoretically the core functionality of
N1MM could be made to run natively on Linux or OSX.

However, N1MM uses a variety of libraries and integrations that are not
cross-platform, and so if the N1MM team were to attempt to support Linux or
OSX there would be a ton of additional work simply dealing with the
confusion about what aspects would only work in Windows vs on other
platforms.

For anyone trying to use N1MM on Linux or OSX, I highly recommend the
program called VirtualBox, which is a free alternative to Parallels and
VMWare.  It is now owned/maintained by Oracle, and is very high quality.
You simply install windows in VirtualBox and N1MM and any other programs
work flawlessly.  Microsoft makes free versions of Windows available to the
public that work for 90 days, and can easily be installed in VirtualBox.

Linux and OSX both offer some tremendous advantages over Windows, and I
think the amateur radio community would benefit tremendously from
transitioning to *n*x at some point in the future.  In the meantime, I have
my computers set up with VirtualBox or as a dual-boot.

N1MM+ is superb software, and we are lucky to have such a skilled team of
people maintaining it.  I'm continually impressed by the attention to
detail and small quality improvements that arrive with each new release.

VirtualBox download link here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

73,
Matt NQ6N

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:11 PM, a45wg <-unkno...@sy-edm.com> wrote:

> Guy,
>         Out of interest from a SW Developer point of View what is N1MM
> written in ?
>
>         Tim - A45WG
>
>
> > On 9 Jul 2016, at 18:38, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
> > beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations,
> that
> > really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
> > wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
> > not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen
> OS
> > need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak
> here
> > and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in
> the
> > run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.
>
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