All,

What specific chemistry are these batteries? Li-ion? LiPo? LiFePO4?

The three different types of lithium-based battery all have different ways
of 'looking after' them (I'm a heavy user of Lithium-based batteries, for
airsoft, portable radio and r/c...

I suspect the reason for the note about 'specified charging time' is based
on the chargers being designed to charge at a certain rate (usually measured
in 'C'... for 'capacity')... Presumably if it recommends a 2 hour charge,
the provided charger charges at 0.5C (half the capacity per hour).

If you stick the batteries on a 'proper' hobbyist's charger, you'll have a
variable maximum charging rate, so you could in theory cut it down and leave
it running longer... In fact some chemistries actually prefer to be charged
at anything as low as 0.1C!

If someone can fill in the blanks on battery types (and ideally the capacity
too!) that'd be fantastic.

As for the steel pan on the concrete patio... That's a great idea provided
it a) isn't going to rain and b) there aren't any bugs or creatures that
will nibble through your cabling. The conventional method of charging safely
indoors is to drop the batteries into a LiPo charging bag (available fairly
cheaply from all good r/c stores and hobbyist websites) which is designed to
contain any fire or explosion caused by improper overcharging of the
batteries. For what it's worth... LiPo and LiFePO4 batteries also need to be
balanced (and as such are sold with a 'balance connector' on a fly lead as
well as the main 'power output' connector. This allows all good chargers to
individually float a cell or pull a bit from another cell to keep all of
them in balance.

73, and a firm left handshake.
John (XLX)

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
MaverickNH
Sent: 30 July 2016 14:18
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [ KX2] KXBT2 Charger

I put a battery in a steel pan out on the concrete patio and charged
overnight - the LED went Red to Green overnight and the battery was still
cool in the morning, so all went well.

The timer sounds like a good solution for indoor safe charging, but I'll
still do so in a pan on a patio block, just in case...  My son got a little
battery-powered remote control race car many years ago, and the battery
scorched the Formica counter top when it overheated during charging.  So
yeah, those lithiums can be nasty without proper circuitry and care.

Bret/KC1CJN



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