I've been a bit Leary of LiPo batteries since I used to fly Electric RC helicopters. They can be quite volatile
From: Doug Person <d...@k0dxv.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Lithium Battery Video I had a poor quality Lithium-ion pack explode with the force of dynamite while recharging. Shrapnel was embedded in the sheet rock 8 feet away. The shock wave was so intense, it ruptured my left eardrum. I never considered that they could be dangerous. Now I know by finding out the hard way. The PBS show was excellent. Doug -- K0DXV On 2/7/2017 6:08 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Yes, saw it too, really good reporting. There was a very good [in the > "real engineering facts" department] article some time ago, prior to > the Samsung debacle. It was aimed primarily at electric vehicle > batteries, and touched a bit on large lithium-chemistry batteries for > the home. Tesla's "Gigafactory" making PowerWalls and vehicle > batteries is about 45 km from us. > > It might have been in Scientific American, sadly I don't remember. > But I do remember: > > The energy density of lithium-chemistry batteries is extraordinarily > high, and they have an almost infinitesimal internal resistance. > Consequently, anything that shorts even part of the battery is going > to result in extreme currents and resulting electrical and pyrotechnic > displays. > > The "secret" to safe lithium-chemistry batteries appears to be really > good engineering and manufacturing quality control. I've had one > LiPoly RC battery I used with my KX1 go up in flames while I was > calling CQ in the Spartan Sprint. Fortunately, I was outside on the > deck, it was externally connected via a pigtail, and I was able to > fling it over the deck railing onto the gravel driveway. It's > provenance was difficult to determine, but I suspect somewhere way way > to the west of NV. > > If a lithium-chemistry battery ignites, water is not likely to put the > fire out. Cheap isn't always a good deal, and I'd never use one > internal to the radio. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > On 2/7/2017 3:19 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: >> Yes, the PBS / NOVA program was indeed informative ... and free of >> political BS 😁 >> >> 73 >> >> K0PP >> >> On Feb 6, 2017 8:26 PM, "k5de...@gmail.com [KX3]" < >> kx3-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> For anyone who would like to know why Lithium batteries can be so >>> dangerous I ran across this interesting video from PBS Nova. If you >>> have >>> not seen it yet take a look. 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