Phil,
I think I understand your point. I think I can live with it. However, I never studied philosophy.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Phil Hystad via Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
To: "Barry" <barrylaz...@gmail.com>
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/10/2020 1:50:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 on motorboat.

The problem with this argument is the dichotomy of choice.  The contrast 
between art and science was introduced into philosophical discussion several 
hundred years ago.

Today, the discussion might better be divided into three categories:  Art, 
Engineering, Science with the recognition that many things real or imagined may 
include parts from all.



 On Jun 10, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Barry <barrylaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I strongly disagree. How many compromises were made to pull this off. You may 
use the laws of physics and math to design something, but unlike physics or 
math, engineering is not as precise. that means there are judgment calls made 
by design engineers. Physicists make judgemet call also, but only in data 
interpretation and not design. Sorry you couldn't be more wrong.

 73,
 Barry
 K3NDM

 ------ Original Message ------
 From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: 6/10/2020 1:53:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 on motorboat.

 On 6/9/2020 3:54 PM, Barry wrote:
 EE is an art and not science

 That is NOT even slightly true. ART did not put us on the moon or build the 
Mars rovers. Engineering is the thoughtful application of scientific principles 
and knowledge to solve practical problems. Without science as a base, it's 
little more than the infinite number of monkeys and typewriters producing 
Shakespeare. Nearly all practical designs involve some compromises. Great 
engineering is selecting (sometimes innovating) those solutions which work well 
for the particular problem at hand.

 73, Jim K9YC


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