So, summary question for the KPA1500 amp designers:

With 5 watts drive and the amp in STBY, the KPA1500 display reads the correct 
1.3:1 SWR.  When I switch the amp to OPER, SWR reads 2.5:1 with the same 5 
watts drive.  All hardware/cabling outside the KPA1500 remains the same for 
each case. Reminder that this anomaly is seen only on 6 meters; other bands are 
fine.  BTW power out with 5 watts drive is about 150 watts, and internal 
KPA1500 tuner is bypassed.

What is different inside the KPA1500 as to how the SWR is sensed and displayed 
between STBY and OPER?

--Ed, N3CW—


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From: Larry (K8UT)
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 9:33 PM
To: ed.n...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re[2]: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Operation on 6 Meters

Ed,

Your dummy load choices at 1500 watts range from expensive and good (Bird) to 
cheap and not-so-good. For example the MFJ-264 is listed as handling 1500 watts 
but if you read the fine print (the derating curve printed on its case ) you're 
limited to 8 seconds at 1500 watts. And each time you stress that dummy load 
its resistor value climbs by a few ohms.

Frustrated with the commercial options available, I built a dummy load using a 
huge heatsink from a salvage VHF transmitter and a series/parallel combination 
of four 50 ohm 250 watt resistors purchased on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-Anaren-RFP-250-50RM-RFP250-50-RF-Power-Flanged-Resistors-250-Watts-50-ohm/133028134252?hash=item1ef9183d6c:g:uHQAAOSwyFhcvsvw

-larry (K8UT)

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From: "Ed G" <ed.n...@gmail.com>
To: "Larry (K8UT)" <k...@charter.net>; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
<Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 2020-06-15 10:57:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Operation on 6 Meters

Hi Larry,
     Yes, exact same problem is there with a known good dummy load in place of 
the Steppir yagi I normally use.
--Ed—
 
 
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From: Larry (K8UT)
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 10:09 AM
To: Ed G; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Operation on 6 Meters
 
Ed,
 
Not seeing that here. SWR value unchanged at 10, 20, 30, 35 watts of 
drive. Suggest you test into a dummy load to see if the problem goes 
away, which would suggest some issue with power level into the feedline 
or antenna.
 
-larry (K8UT)
 
 
------ Original Message ------
From: "Ed G" <ed.n...@gmail.com>
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 2020-06-15 9:48:55 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Operation on 6 Meters
 
>Folks,
>      I am trying to understand some odd KPA1500 operation on 6 meters.  When 
>setting the power output of my K3 to give varying amounts of drive to the 
>KPA1500, I am seeing SWR as displayed on the KPA1500 changing by a significant 
>amount depending on the drive level.  This is with the KPA1500 tuner bypassed. 
>An LP-100A on the output of the KPA1500 is also used and displays the correct 
>low SWR at all drive levels that I would expect to be seeing on the KPA1500 
>display.
>      For example, with 5 watts drive from the K3, I see 1.3 SWR on the 
>LP-100, and 2.5:1 on the KPA1500 display.  As I increase drive, the KPA1500 
>SWR display goes down proportionally, until I get to about 40 watts drive. At 
>the 40 watt drive level, I am seeing a nice healthy 1600 watts output, and 
>both the LP-100 and the KPA1500 are showing the same 1.3 SWR.  15 watts drive 
>shows 1.3 on the LP100 and 2.0:1 on the KPA1500 display. So I am not sure why 
>the SWR sensing and display in the KPA1500 is behaving this way?  I do not see 
>this oddity on any other bands.
>      I might also add that attempting to get the KPA1500 internal tuner to 
>bring down the high SWR as seen on the KPA1500 results in a drop in SWR 
>displayed on the KPA1500 to where SWR almost equals that on the LP-100, but 
>using the tuner I would expect that to be even better.
>--Ed—
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