What do you have in mind? I liked the event video. The most customer oriented thing they could do is fedex a letter overnight with your radio status every day. But that gets expensive. You might feel great about it. You say that is hyperbolic? True. But even a weekly email with status is not cheap.
Can you articulate what you do want in terms of communications? Regards Hal > On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Julia Tuttle <ju...@juliatuttle.net> wrote: > > "The point of all of this is why is Elecraft not on this list telling us > these things like they used to?" > > Yes, that, right there. > > However much they are or aren't going to say, why do we have to watch event > videos to hear it? > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 14:16 W0MU Mike Fatchett <w...@w0mu.com > <mailto:w...@w0mu.com>> wrote: > >> The point of all of this is why is Elecraft not on this list telling us >> these things like they used to? >> >> I hear lots of excuses. Sure there are supply line problems for >> everyone. HRO still has lots of product. Elecraft has a big competitor >> in FLEX are they having similar issues? I hear that some big box radios >> have some wait times but not in the years category. >> >> K4 investor? You have not invested in the company you are a customer >> unless I missed the profit sharing version of the K4. >> >> Most people have given them lots of slack. Why is communicating with >> people that have fronted you lots of money to make this radio possible >> so difficult. I don't get it. >> >> I don't have a K4 on order either but if I did I might be concerned. >> >> W0MU >> >> On 3/31/2021 10:13 AM, David Herring wrote: >>> Further to this excellent post, Eric did say that, at that point in >> time, his expectation was that the group A backlog would be cleared by end >> of May. I didn’t go back through the video to find it, but I was watching >> one of his presentations live and did hear that. >>> >>> Another thing that Wayne mentioned in one of the meeting rooms was that >> at one point Elecraft had to go back and re-design a portion of the K4 >> because tariffs levied on certain parts from certain countries would have >> rendered the project unaffordable. >>> >>> What’s more, and I don’t recall which of them said it, but Elecraft >> apparently had to deal with retirements of certain important people in the >> process. >>> >>> Ordinarily I’d never wait 2+ years for delivery of a product I’d >> ordered, perhaps many of us wouldn’t, but… >>> >>> Tariffs, Retirements, The Pandemic, Employees Down With COVID, Wild >> Fires (and employee loss of property), Vendor Delays… >>> >>> None of that was under Elecraft’s control. Not much of that could have >> been foreseen. “Stuff” happens. >>> >>> That is why, I imagine, most of us K4 investors are just patiently >> waiting. Content to give them the space they need to press on with >> addressing the issues as they come and moving forward. >>> >>> 73, >>> David - N5DCH >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Kimo Chun <kimoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Presentation from the Expo. >>>> Elecraft K4 High Performance Direct-Sampling SDR Transceiver, Eric >> Swartz >>>> WA6HHQ <https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/player.html?link=NTI4MjQzNTQ1> >>>> >>>> Perhaps more recent announcements by Elecraft have superseded this. >>>> I realize others have already mentioned some of this. But I thought I'd >> go >>>> back (for the 3rd time) to try to itemize some of Eric's statements. >> Note: >>>> I don't take dictation and didn't spend a lot of time replaying it over >> and >>>> over to get everything verbatim. Nor replaying the whole thing. >>>> These are my interpretations and words. Please pardon any omissions or >>>> errors. Go listen for yourself. The delivery time frames are based on >> the >>>> Expo date: March 13, 2021. >>>> >>>> Check minutes 17:00 to about 20:00 and around 1:22:00 on. There are >> other >>>> segments. >>>> -He discusses the supply problems they had due to COVID and how they >> have >>>> now amassed an inventory of the long lead time items in the last 3 to 4 >>>> weeks. A local chassis supplier was one of the most recent hang ups. >> Plus >>>> parts stuck in shipments the COVID-restricted Longshoremen haven't >> handled >>>> yet. They are now smoothing things out and production will be ramping >> up. >>>> >>>> Kit versions are at least 4 to 5 months out. >>>> -They are still learning and modifying production techniques which will >>>> make it easier to build. Then how-to documentation must be updated. >>>> -The first day orders 16th (2019?) at Dayton, may be fulfilled soon. >>>> -The second day orders 17th will be 3 to 4 weeks or longer after Group >> A is >>>> done. >>>> -Group B is even larger than Group A. >>>> -Orders kept coming in all summer after Dayton and have dropped to a >>>> consistent medium rate. Some spikes like when it was announced they >> started >>>> shipping. >>>> -When asked, "If I were to order a K4 right now, how long would I have >> to >>>> wait?", he answered, "Over 3 to 4 months". >>>> - I asked the very last question - When will the K4HD be finalized? He >>>> said, "Conservatively... by the end of the year". So production comes >>>> sometime thereafter. Plug in upgrades to the K4D, presumably, first for >>>> those who ordered K4HD but took the K4D first. >>>> - Testimonials from K4 owners would be found on the Elecraft-K4 GroupsIO >>>> list. >>>> >>>> Side bar: somewhere else in the presentation he said Group A >>>> will, hopefully, be completed in the next month or so (did I get this >>>> right? I didn't find that section). Group B (even larger) comes after >> that. >>>> I haven't re-checked the definition of Group A and B sorry. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps some of you with delivery anxiety. >>>> 73, >>>> Kimo KH7U >>>> (Happy with my almost new K3S s/n 11727, so the K4 is but a dream down >> the >>>> road. 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