Julia, that makes sense. Perhaps we could add ‘periodic update instead of whenever they can?” PS— I like the event video updates because those clear the noise threshold of the multitude of emails I get but that is just a personal preference. A loud sky writing aircraft overhead for 7-8 hours would work even better for me but that’s probably asking too much.
Regards -Hal > On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Julia Tuttle <ju...@juliatuttle.net> wrote: > > I'm not waiting on a K4 myself, but the K4 launch has put a strain on other > parts of the business (like fixing KX3 firmware issues or responding to > lower-priority support emails). > > I'd be happy to see updates whenever they're available, but to this list and > clearly labeled as such -- it seems like a lot of the time the details come > out in the middle of other threads that folks might miss. Somewhere on the > website would also be nice. > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 14:33 Hal Massey <haljr.mas...@gmail.com > <mailto:haljr.mas...@gmail.com>> wrote: > What do you have in mind? I liked the event video. > > The most customer oriented thing they could do is fedex a letter overnight > with your radio status every day. But that gets expensive. You might feel > great about it. You say that is hyperbolic? True. But even a weekly email > with status is not cheap. > > Can you articulate what you do want in terms of communications? > > Regards > Hal > >> On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Julia Tuttle <ju...@juliatuttle.net >> <mailto:ju...@juliatuttle.net>> wrote: >> >> "The point of all of this is why is Elecraft not on this list telling us >> these things like they used to?" >> >> Yes, that, right there. >> >> However much they are or aren't going to say, why do we have to watch event >> videos to hear it? >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 14:16 W0MU Mike Fatchett <w...@w0mu.com >> <mailto:w...@w0mu.com>> wrote: >> >>> The point of all of this is why is Elecraft not on this list telling us >>> these things like they used to? >>> >>> I hear lots of excuses. Sure there are supply line problems for >>> everyone. HRO still has lots of product. Elecraft has a big competitor >>> in FLEX are they having similar issues? I hear that some big box radios >>> have some wait times but not in the years category. >>> >>> K4 investor? You have not invested in the company you are a customer >>> unless I missed the profit sharing version of the K4. >>> >>> Most people have given them lots of slack. Why is communicating with >>> people that have fronted you lots of money to make this radio possible >>> so difficult. I don't get it. >>> >>> I don't have a K4 on order either but if I did I might be concerned. >>> >>> W0MU >>> >>> On 3/31/2021 10:13 AM, David Herring wrote: >>>> Further to this excellent post, Eric did say that, at that point in >>> time, his expectation was that the group A backlog would be cleared by end >>> of May. I didn’t go back through the video to find it, but I was watching >>> one of his presentations live and did hear that. >>>> >>>> Another thing that Wayne mentioned in one of the meeting rooms was that >>> at one point Elecraft had to go back and re-design a portion of the K4 >>> because tariffs levied on certain parts from certain countries would have >>> rendered the project unaffordable. >>>> >>>> What’s more, and I don’t recall which of them said it, but Elecraft >>> apparently had to deal with retirements of certain important people in the >>> process. >>>> >>>> Ordinarily I’d never wait 2+ years for delivery of a product I’d >>> ordered, perhaps many of us wouldn’t, but… >>>> >>>> Tariffs, Retirements, The Pandemic, Employees Down With COVID, Wild >>> Fires (and employee loss of property), Vendor Delays… >>>> >>>> None of that was under Elecraft’s control. Not much of that could have >>> been foreseen. “Stuff” happens. >>>> >>>> That is why, I imagine, most of us K4 investors are just patiently >>> waiting. Content to give them the space they need to press on with >>> addressing the issues as they come and moving forward. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> David - N5DCH >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Kimo Chun <kimoc...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:kimoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Presentation from the Expo. >>>>> Elecraft K4 High Performance Direct-Sampling SDR Transceiver, Eric >>> Swartz >>>>> WA6HHQ <https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/player.html?link=NTI4MjQzNTQ1 >>>>> <https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/player.html?link=NTI4MjQzNTQ1>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps more recent announcements by Elecraft have superseded this. >>>>> I realize others have already mentioned some of this. But I thought I'd >>> go >>>>> back (for the 3rd time) to try to itemize some of Eric's statements. >>> Note: >>>>> I don't take dictation and didn't spend a lot of time replaying it over >>> and >>>>> over to get everything verbatim. Nor replaying the whole thing. >>>>> These are my interpretations and words. Please pardon any omissions or >>>>> errors. Go listen for yourself. The delivery time frames are based on >>> the >>>>> Expo date: March 13, 2021. >>>>> >>>>> Check minutes 17:00 to about 20:00 and around 1:22:00 on. There are >>> other >>>>> segments. >>>>> -He discusses the supply problems they had due to COVID and how they >>> have >>>>> now amassed an inventory of the long lead time items in the last 3 to 4 >>>>> weeks. A local chassis supplier was one of the most recent hang ups. >>> Plus >>>>> parts stuck in shipments the COVID-restricted Longshoremen haven't >>> handled >>>>> yet. They are now smoothing things out and production will be ramping >>> up. >>>>> >>>>> Kit versions are at least 4 to 5 months out. >>>>> -They are still learning and modifying production techniques which will >>>>> make it easier to build. Then how-to documentation must be updated. >>>>> -The first day orders 16th (2019?) at Dayton, may be fulfilled soon. >>>>> -The second day orders 17th will be 3 to 4 weeks or longer after Group >>> A is >>>>> done. >>>>> -Group B is even larger than Group A. >>>>> -Orders kept coming in all summer after Dayton and have dropped to a >>>>> consistent medium rate. Some spikes like when it was announced they >>> started >>>>> shipping. >>>>> -When asked, "If I were to order a K4 right now, how long would I have >>> to >>>>> wait?", he answered, "Over 3 to 4 months". >>>>> - I asked the very last question - When will the K4HD be finalized? He >>>>> said, "Conservatively... by the end of the year". So production comes >>>>> sometime thereafter. Plug in upgrades to the K4D, presumably, first for >>>>> those who ordered K4HD but took the K4D first. >>>>> - Testimonials from K4 owners would be found on the Elecraft-K4 GroupsIO >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> Side bar: somewhere else in the presentation he said Group A >>>>> will, hopefully, be completed in the next month or so (did I get this >>>>> right? I didn't find that section). Group B (even larger) comes after >>> that. >>>>> I haven't re-checked the definition of Group A and B sorry. >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps some of you with delivery anxiety. >>>>> 73, >>>>> Kimo KH7U >>>>> (Happy with my almost new K3S s/n 11727, so the K4 is but a dream down >>> the >>>>> road. 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