Who said it was a trustworthy device? I did not indicate you should trust it, I indicated it has use as an indicator of possible problems... You are responding to perhaps someone else?

Here is the quote from my post:
>Here is an interesting video showing both the strengths, and weaknesses >of the tinySA. A compare of the tinySA to an HP 8921A SA:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtF2AYT0iQ
>
>For the price, and if one is careful, and aware of how to use the <tinySA, you can gain a lot of knowledge for around 100 bucks.
>
>I am half tempted to buy one, and add a tap to my output coax, add >power, bring it to a very low input level, and just keep the tinySA on >all the time I operate, as an alarm that I might have an issue.


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 6/10/21 10:58 AM, Dean L wrote:
After watching the video of the TinySA next to the HP8921, I can't see how you could EVER trust the results of the toy. I watched as OM in the video was scratching his head wondering where the artifacts on the display of the TinySA came from. Did I watch the wrong video? If I didn't see the image captured by the HP, I would have comd to different conclusions.




I was not impressed:
Same author different video,

https://youtu.be/uwXUZSdxNq4 <https://youtu.be/uwXUZSdxNq4>

 As he changed the amplitude the harmonics generated by the TinySA changed accordingly making the signal look "dirty"
Great tool if you have a $10k Service monitor sitting right next to it...

I understand it's $100 gizmo, but might confuse an unsuspecting operator.


I would not fault my kilobuck HF rig with this unit
YMMV

73
Dean K2WW

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 10:23 Dave <d...@nk7z.net <mailto:d...@nk7z.net>> wrote:

    Interestingly enough I don't see that issue here with my K3, and
    tinySA.
       I also don't use the built in antenna.  I use a tap and attenuator
    combination.

    I am also using a non clone device, as opposed to a clone device.  Some
    clones don't have the internal shielding.

    Here is a compare to a clone vs a non clone:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5IzLAGgKg0
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5IzLAGgKg0>

    Here is an interesting video showing both the strengths, and weaknesses
    of the tinySA.  A compare of the tinySA to an HP 8921A SA:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtF2AYT0iQ
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtF2AYT0iQ>

    For the price, and if one is careful, and aware of how to use the
    tinySA, you can gain a lot of knowledge for around 100 bucks.

    I am half tempted to buy one, and add a tap to my output coax, add
    power, bring it to a very low input level, and just keep the tinySA on
    all the time I operate, as an alarm that I might have an issue.

    73, and thanks,
    Dave (NK7Z)
    https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
    ARRL Volunteer Examiner
    ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
    ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

    On 6/10/21 6:45 AM, N4ST - Jim wrote:
     > FWIW, be careful with your measurement process.
     > I got very depressed when I saw that my K3S had harmonics only
    20db down on most bands when measured by Tiny SA and its telescoping
    antenna.
     > It was not being overloaded and in fact I measured similar
    results when feeding a dummy load.
     > Then I went outside the shack at a distance from the antennas and
    found that the harmonics were 40dB down or better.
     > Evidently when measuring inside the shack I was getting RF
    leakage directly through the front panel of the rig. (?).
     >
     > _______________
     > 73,
     > Jim - N4ST
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     > Actually for this use they are...  Someone did a compare of the
    tinySA
     > to an HP, and it was within a few dB as long as it was
    overdriven.  We
     > are looking for splatter or harmonics, not doing a proof of
    performance.
     >
     > 73, and thanks,
     > Dave (NK7Z)
     > https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
     > ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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     > On 6/9/21 7:10 PM, Wes wrote:
     >> I'm not sure those toys are up to the task.
     >>
     >> On 6/9/2021 5:30 PM, Dave wrote:
     >>> Buy an attenuator, and a tinySA, or get an SDRPlay, and run the
     >>> Spectrum Analyzer software.  Take a few SA shots, that will
    tell you
     >>> if it is him, or you.
     >>>
     >>> 73, and thanks,
     >>> Dave (NK7Z)
     >>> https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
     >>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
     >>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
     >>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
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