How long at 100% duty cycle does it take the KPA1500 to get sad? Is 15
seconds on short enough that it won't overheat immediately and 15 seconds
off enough that it won't overheat eventually?

On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 11:19 Ken K6MR <k...@outlook.com> wrote:

> "Given its high duty cycle, you are asking for trouble if you operate your
> power amplifier in FT8 mode using your KPA1500 at anywhere near high power."
>
> Worst case duty cycle on FT8 is never more than 50%.  This assumes that
> you are transmitting every odd or even time slot.  Very few stations are
> able to keep that rate for very long.  So I would bet the actual duty cycle
> is more like 30% to 40% in actual use.
>
> On a practical note, I tried FT8 once in a contest (the first WWDigi
> contest).  I ran SO2R, with each radio set to transmit on the alternate
> time slot.  My station uses a single KPA1500 driven by two K3s, switched
> accordingly.  I ran this setup for a whole day, and other than the fans
> getting to level 5 occasionally, it worked fine.  I regularly use this
> setup on RTTY, and see similar results.  I can run 2BISQ on RTTY without a
> problem.
>
> And to answer the original poster's question, yes, the amp will reduce
> output as it gets warmer.  In my case it drops about 100 watts (1500 ->
> 1400) which is -0.3 dB.  Hardly enough to worry about.
>
> Ken K6MR
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 reduces power as it gets warmer?
>
> FT8 is a weak signal mode, designed for low power. Given its high duty
> cycle, you are asking for trouble if you operate your power amplifier in
> FT8 mode using your KPA1500 at anywhere near high power. I burned out my
> final on my K2 at 15 watts on FT8.
>
> 73,
> Kevin Robertson KD2WCY
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 2022, at 12:42 AM, Rick NK7I <rick.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the KPA1500 will drop 10% of the output, as it warms up. 1500
> drops to 1350, so you have to compensate with the drive.
> >
> > I'm told this is typical of all solid state finals (my KPA500 did
> likewise).
> >
> > If you're running the station remotely; bump up the fan speed to slow
> the drop (or wear cans).
> >
> > 73,
> > Rick NK7I
> >
> >> On 6/3/2022 9:22 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
> >> I note my KPA1500 drops power at its temperature rises...
> >>
> >> Using FT8, so a relatively high duty cycle.
> >>
> >> Say I start at a heat sink temperature of 27 C, and 1,000 watts out; by
> the time the temperature is at 65 C, the power has dropped to 893 watts out.
> >>
> >> I have a couple of questions about this (not a complaint by the way):
> >>
> >> 1. Does anyone else experience this?
> >> 2. Is it normal?
> >>
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