I read a book series by William Hertling some number of years ago, about Avogadro Corp., a company that reminds me of Google, that had created a massive email database so large that it started to think for itself. It started to 'protect' itself by sending false emails to corporate heads, acting as other heads, asking for off-shore protected locations for its hardware, and eventually creating armed robotic entities to guard those sites.

It was a fascinating read, and ended up with a four-book series that I found quite interesting.

Do a Google search for "Avogadro science fiction book series"

73,

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On 2025-10-18 23:52, Dave (NK7Z) via Elecraft wrote:
Don't forget the movie...


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On 10/18/25 17:23, Art Peters via Elecraft wrote:
Colossus, now that is a series of books from the past…
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On Oct 18, 2025, at 7:07 PM, KJ7SOY via Elecraft <[email protected]> wrote:

D.F. Jones wrote at length about a religion predicated on an AI as God in the “Colossus” trilogy in the 1960’s, as have many other authors. Mrs. Davis is nothing new. Just the latest in a long line.

73, Adrian
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On Oct 18, 2025, at 3:39 PM, David Gilbert via Elecraft <[email protected]> wrote:


"It’s not taking over, we’ve invited it."


That's already happening too. I recently saw the results of a poll that said roughly 30% ... of those polled ... believe that the AI Chatbots are an appropriate partner for a relationship, and some take that as far as the relationship being romantic. I don't think it is too far away that somebody tries to build a religion around AI, and in fact the series "Mrs. Davis" (which is actually a really fun show to watch ... streaming on Peacock) already uses that as its major premise.

I'm a big supporter of AI, but the problem with AI is humans, not AI itself ... at least not so far since AI is yet to become sentient. By the way, my own "Turing" criteria for when AI becomes sentient to the level of humans is when it intentionally causes harm on its own just because it can.

Dave   AB7E



On 10/18/2025 3:06 PM, Jeff KQ4CMA wrote:
On Oct 18, 2025, at 4:17 PM, David Gilbert via Elecraft <[email protected]> wrote:
I think I could argue that there is some evidence of that already ... AI notwithstanding.
Exactly. It fits the trend so cleanly that it’s a natural, even invisible transition. It’s not taking over, we’ve invited it.

Jeff KQ4CMA



On 10/18/2025 12:39 PM, Michael Carter via Elecraft wrote:
This article describing studies of the influence of AI tools on human learning begs the question: if humans rein in their independent, creative thought processes for the expedience/speed of AI, and future AI models are trained on the corpus of collective human wisdom, is there a death spiral of societal knowledge into whirlpools of utter ignorance?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/18/are-we-living-in-a-golden-age-of-stupidity-technology

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