Vic K2VCO wrote:


There is no difference if the balun is on the input or output side of an unbalanced tuner. See

That's only true of an ideal balun. A real current balun has a finite common mode impedance, which is typically designed to be about 10 times the nominal operating impedance. If you put it between the ATU and the antenna, it will be working into the actual antenna impedance, which off resonance will quite high and reactive. Under those circumstances, the ratio between the common mode and differential mode paths may not be very large.

I assume that you are using the balun because the antenna is balanced. If not, just use the KAT2 directly.

The requirement that I'm trying to meet is that the K2 chassis not be RF hot and that, if I connect the mains ground, there is no significant RF in that ground. RF choking the ground has the same problem that the choke impedance will not be large compared with an off resonant antenna. That requires driving an antenna that is, at least approximately, balanced - in reality it's not possible for me to get true balance, because the antenna has to be indoors.

A choked earth doesn't remove the need for something to carry the return current, and whilst it may get called an artificial earth, it is really part of a semi-balanced antenna, and unless it is massive compared with the "antenna", will probably be more balanced that unbalanced.

internal tuner to find a match. I then added some capacitors in series with the feeders to cancel the reactance. I used a compromise value

In other words, you added a balanced tuner on the antenna side of the balun! I'll accept that there may be solutions that do coarse tuning on the antenna side, to get the impedance into the right ball park, then use the unbalanced tuner, on the equipment side, to do the fine tuning, but what you are describing is still doing a lot of the tuning antenna side.


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