Those of us who have been around RTTY before the days of electronic printers remember the second meaning of LSMFT - low space means fine teletype. (refers to the RF frequency, not the demodulated audio of course.)

Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com


Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
RTTY was based upon the frequency of Mark (2125) and Space (2295) and the surplus military equipment available, unless you could afford some of the high dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the military).

No, RTTY is always "Shift low" - that is Mark is the HIGHER RF frequency and space is the LOWER RF frequency. When the audio tones 2215 and 2295 are applied to a LSB transmitter in AFSK this results in the correct shift.
I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA (perhaps Elecraft can tell us.) As an experiment, try switching rigs in MixW and observe what is happening to the signal frequency.

FSK D and AFSK A receive in LSB while PSK D and DATA A receive in USB for compatibility with the (backward) convention of most non- RTTY software writers (PSK32, MFSK, etc.). 73, ... Joe, W4TV



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As Julian suggested the problem is in MixW. It has been 40 years since I had the RTTY training course in the NAVY, but, it has to do with the convoluted history of RTTY. Although SSB is on the LSB on the HF bands below 30 Meters and USB on those bands above 30 meters (Many reasons given for this most of which are not correct) RTTY was based upon the frequency of Mark (2125) and Space (2295) and the surplus military equipment available, unless you could afford some of the high dollar HAL equipment (which was also used by the military). Military protocol was to have the Mark the lowest tone in frequency. This was ok with most equipment made BPC (Before Personnel Computers). The PC brought out the conversion of telephone modems, use of the modem IC’s and finally the PC sound card for generating these tones. If you built a TNC out of a modem chip and did not include a reverse switch you were stuck to either the low or high bands. This was fixed on the PC with a button to reverse the signal that you could click on and copying. Some of the Rigs treat RTTY as SSB, others put RTTY so that the Mark is always the lowest frequency transmitted regardless of the band selected, and RTTYR reverses this. I have no idea what the protocol is for DATA (perhaps Elecraft can tell us.) As an experiment, try switching rigs in MixW and observe what is happening to the signal frequency. You wil not be able to chang frequency with MixW but you can see what happens to the signal as you turn the dial on the RIG.

Rich,
KE0X


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