Humble opinion time... Having K31 persist across reboots might be a Bad Idea too. It's a mode dependency, meaning more than one state might be possible at start-up time. This may cause some PC programs to go into brainlock if K31 responses are not what's expected. Plain K3; is what most of them expect (I think...).
Imho, Wayne has this right. There should only be a single start-up state. 73, matt zilmer K3 #24 On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:19:15 -0400, you wrote: > >Don, > >> I thought we were talking about a Microham Router command >> that does not work at times until the user issues a terminal >> K31 command manually. > >No, we are not talking about ANY Router command. microHAM >interfaces (DigiKeyer, microKEYER, microKEYER II and MK2R/MK2R+) >can generate FSK from a PS/2 keyboard attached to the interface >IF the transceiver is in RTTY (FSK) mode. Unfortunately, the >K3 reports its "Digital" mode as DATA A (AFSK) unless the K3 >response set is used. > >As I've stated several times, Router does not change the CAT >mode (form of the IF response) because it might "break" any >software that requires specific responses to the DS and FW >command. > >This is not a matter of Router's programming ... it is a >case where 1) the K3 does not report the information needed >and 2) once the user has changed the mode of the K3, that >change does not survive a reboot. > >The most logical solution would be to make "K31" persist >across reboots and/or make the "d" byte active in the auto- >information (IF) reports. > >73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm >> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 7:56 AM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 command mode default k30 k31 >> >> >> Joe, >> >> I thought we were talking about a Microham Router command >> that does not >> work at times until the user issues a terminal K31 command manually. >> Yes, the user power cycled the K3, but I believe proper >> software should >> recover from that event with no input from the user - that >> usually comes >> under the category of 'error recovery'. >> >> For commands that require K31 mode to work as expected, the software >> *must* "change the state (mode) of the radio" or assure that >> the K3 is >> already in that state. I believe it is the responsibility of the >> software to assure that the K31 mode is set on rather than >> depending on >> (assuming) any state of the radio. That can easily be >> circumvented by >> using a bracketed command string. See the excerpt from the K3 >> Programmer's Reference below. >> >> "Meta commands can be sent as often as you wish. You can even >> use them >> to bracket one or more selected >> commands if you don't want to permanently change the mode. >> For example: >> K31; FW; K30; selects command >> mode K31 just for the benefit of the FW command, then returns to mode >> K30. (This allows the FW command to >> set/read the bandwidth in 10-Hz units.)" >> >> If the K3 does not behave as indicated in the Programmer's Reference, >> that is the fault of the K3, but if software is failing to work as >> expected because of a particular state of the radio, then I >> think that >> fault lies with the software. >> >> This case may be a moot point in the future, because I see Wayne has >> just stated that he will make changes to not require these modal >> commands. I trust that can be accomplished without creating problems >> for the many bits of software already out there, but that >> remains to be >> seen. >> >> This is my last post on this subject. It is obvious to me >> that my view >> of what constitutes proper software is different than that of >> at least >> one programmer. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >> I beg to differ. The K3 does provide the information on >> the command >> >> state via the 'K2n;' command and the 'K3n;' command. >> >> >> > >> > Bull. The K3 does not provide the information in response to >> > the K3n; command. The K3 changes its CAT response - specifically >> > changes the information reported in the IF (auto information) >> > data and its response to several other commands based on the >> > status of K3n; >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
