Isn't that the point, that you have to put it under a microscope to
"see" what most people can't hear?  Everything starts to look rough
under a microscope. It SOUNDS underweight to me in the slowed down
version.

Yeah, and my cool-aid is the good stuff.

73, Guy.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Steve Ellington <n...@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> Easy on that cool-aid....
> It's irregular, almost sounds like a bug.
> Take a look at it on one of the scope programs.
> Steve
> N4LQ
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Olinger K2AV"
> <olin...@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Steve Ellington" <n...@carolina.rr.com>
> Cc: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Link to QRQ CW RECORDING
>
>
>> Well, yes, I can hear that, barely, in the recording, but at 45 WPM?
>> And that doesn't sound irregular to me, it sounds shortened. Add a
>> little weight to it. Hate to say it, but ain't this started off in the
>> direction of the Princess and the Pea?  You DID have to run it slow to
>> make it apparent.
>>
>> The real problem is that by pushing that speed you are working against
>> the absolutely pure, artifact-free, soft QSK that everyone seems to
>> want, along with all the features that pull CPU time away from state
>> changes. AND we are talking about resource- and time-constrained
>> HARDWARE code, the most difficult kind of coding on the planet.  AND
>> from a company that doesn't have the resources to spend on a couple
>> hundred salaried programmers and testers to work on it.
>>
>> The degree of tricky I don't believe can be appreciated by anybody
>> that hasn't written and debugged hardware code in a production
>> environment.  You guys are really lucky that Wayne appears to enjoy
>> such stuff.  Hardware code is seriously deranged work.  The
>> alternative is guess who, and we all know how that has turned out for
>> innovation and RX performance.  I got the K3 for the RX, and if he
>> ever does manage to do artifact-free 50 wpm state changes with RX
>> between the dits and microscopically perfect CW shaping, then bully
>> for him and I owe him a few rounds somewhere.  But reality beckons...
>> Get your KPA's and P3's and other stuff out there to keep up the
>> revenue stream so we get to keep this string of innovation some take
>> for granted.
>>
>> That off my chest, I'm in favor of an option for those of us that
>> would rather have HARD QSK instead of the squeaky clean, absolutely no
>> artifact "QSK" that so many seem to want. I had 60 wpm QSK, clean
>> between the bauds, with a tube electronic TR switch and a separate RX,
>> TX (SB 300/400), and an AGC and audio gain clamp circuit added to the
>> RX, driven off the TX key circuit, and you could hear between all the
>> dits at 60 wpm.  But ARTIFACT-FREE?  Surely you jest.  Another
>> approach might be at some set WPM, to drop out of state changes INSIDE
>> the letter.
>>
>> 73, Guy.
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Steve Ellington <n...@carolina.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This file was made about a year ago and sent to Elecraft.
>>> A Winkeyer USB was used to generate 45 wpm and key the K3. This playback
>>> has been slowed so you can hear the uneven elements.
>>> The second half shows how the problem goes away when the K3 is locked in
>>> Transmit mode.
>>>
>>> http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0By_pJYMIPoenM2FhNDE0ZDQtNzdkMy00ZjIyLWJmOWItNGFjZTI0ZWJhYWMy&hl=en
>>> Steve
>>> N4LQ
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