This issue has been debated many times on the reflector and both parties have their points. In my opinion, the K3 has it right BUT I need the sidetone level to be available at all times during cw operation without push/hold/tone. The steady tone thing drives me crazy if I'm in a QSO and need to change level. The pitch adjustment with it's steady tone also bugs me but I've gotten used to this. Now I'm permanetly crazy! Steve N4LQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom W8JI" <w...@w8ji.com> To: "Toby Pennington" <toby...@embarqmail.com>; <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Sidetone
> Toby, > > For me, sidetone or monitor level linked to volume setting > is very distasteful. Depending on the signal to noise ratio > and the type of noise or signal, I'm always fiddling with > the volume. I pretty much always want one sidetone or > monitor level, and want it independent of volume. > > The only case I can think of where I might want level linked > to volume is where I might have a poorly implemented setup > with grossly different levels in speaker or headset. I don't > have that problem at all because I have a separate external > amplifier (MFJ-616) driving my speaker and I set the level > on that, while the K3 and my other radios always match the > level needed for my headphones. > > As a matter of fact my headphones are always active, and > bridge off the speaker lines at a selector switch. All audio > lines are isolated with transformers. > > http://www.w8ji.com/my_shack.htm > > and someday I will have more at > > http://www.w8ji.com/cables_and_wiring.htm > > With a simple basic one radio system where I plug in > headsets I would equalize the volume in headsets with an > attenuator if they are too sensitive. I dislike having to > greatly adjust volume settings when gong from speaker to > phones. > > I don't use the headphone jacks on any of my gear, I use the > speaker outputs for everything. I have a switch the cuts the > speaker in and out and the headphones are always on. > > I think this is one of the half the people want it one way, > half the other issues. It is very easy to build an > attenuator or put a little effort into the speaker and > headphone system, and there is no need to grossly change > audio levels on sidetone. > > 73 Tom > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Toby Pennington" <toby...@embarqmail.com> > To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:37 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] CW Sidetone > > >>I know I have heard that some want the cw side tone to >>work like it does, but I have never heard why? >> >> You set the sidetone to a certain frequency and the volume >> never changes. It is not tied to the AF gain like most >> rigs. >> >> I notice I have had to change the side tone when going >> from headphones to speaker. Perhaps some impedence issue >> there, but my phones are louder than my speaker requiring >> constant adjusting of the sidetone. >> >> Several modern rigs I have owned have the AF gain tied to >> the sidetone volume, why not the K3? >> >> Toby W4CAK >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: >> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
