James,

The problem is not that we seek "pure" proportionality, we seek decision makers that 
can take the best
decisions with the limited ressources they have.
If they invest in a useless hospital to gain votes, the money to build a more useful 
bridge elsewhere
won't be available. The only tip we can have to get the best decisions is independant 
judges, exactly
like in a jury.  Any geographical districts, even Matt's best designs will still make 
each of those
judge partial when deciding where to invest government's money.

James Gilmour wrote :

> Matt wrote
> > Maybe, but if there is a solution to a real problem then we
> > cannot know if the solution will be adopted without giving it a try.
>
> But I don't think there is a "real problem".  This problem is in the minds of those 
> who seek some
> mythical "pure" proportionality.  And we here in the UK already know that virtual 
> districts are not
> worth a second thought, at least, not here.  How do we know?  From what electors 
> have already said
> about what they want from their representives.

UK electors have never been offered chronological districts, only multi-membered 
districts. Most
participant here on the EM list
do not even know what chronological districts are! Did you ask UK electors if they 
wanted unpartial
country managers?

>  Locality and community are very important.

I agree!! But they need to be defended by their city council (or other local organism) 
in front of a
national INDEPENDANT council board.

>
> James

Steph.

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