At 04:54 PM 8/31/2005, Warren Smith wrote:
For
evidence about Duverger law see
   http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/Duverger.html
and if anybody wants to supply me with some more datapoints (e.g. from 2002-2005 elections)
then I can add them to the picture there.

Duverger's law isn't a law. From wikipedia:
While there are indeed many FPTP systems with two parties, there are significant <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterexample>counterexamples: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland>Scotland has had until recently first-past-the-post and similar systems but has seen the development of several significant competing political parties. Many commentators regard the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom>United Kingdom's <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_%28UK%29>Liberal Democrat party, since the 2005 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Election>General Election, as forming a 'third party' and creating a three-party system. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada>Canada and <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India>India have multiple regional parties. Duverger himself did not regard his principle as absolute: instead he suggested that first-past-the-post would act to delay the emergence of a new political force, and would accelerate the elimination of a weakening force - <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation>proportional representation would have the opposite effect.

However, it is clear that what Warren is calling "plurality" does encourage the formation and maintenance of two-party systems. However, from my point of view, this could also be seen as a failure of third parties from understanding how to grow in the plurality environment. Quite obviously, if a party encourages its members to waste their votes by voting for the party's candidates, while the party is weak, it will find itself in the vicious circle that Warren describes. And, in fact, the most dangerous time may be as the party approaches parity. However, there are other paths to a strong third party, which is for a caucus to form within an existing party, and to exercise influence without necessarily wasting votes. It's been pointed out that, from a policy perspective, Southern Democrats at the time of FDR were really a third party.

My own analysis of the situation tells me that third parties largely fail here in the U.S. because they and their members generally take a naive view of what a third party could do. They can be partially successful in that elements from their platforms can become elements of the platforms of one of the major parties (or both). However, they could also become stable forces, if they recognize that there are many successes short of having the party candidate win an election. Consider 2000: I have often pointed out that Nader could have negotiated with the other campaign(s) for an endorsement and a recommendation that voters supporting Nader should vote for, say, Gore, and only for Nader if they really could not support Gore even as the lesser of two evils. In addition, he would have asked all voters who did switch their vote because of his recommendation that they donate at least a small amount, say $5, or whatever, to a campaign fund set up just for this purpose, to measure, in a very tangible way, support that was not expressed in a vote. (This would have more than replaced the lost federal campaign financing funds, I think). As to the argument that the votes help keep the party on the ballot, if a party has enough votes to actually win an election, then it surely has enough people to get a candidate on the ballot. (I'm not familiar with state law on this subject, it may vary.)

As suggested by the Southern Democrat example and by others around the world, third parties may also form due to regional interests; these parties would be likely to form coalitions in national elections.

Duverger's "law" creates a pressure, it does not necessarily control.

And the conclusion that Warren keeps pushing as if it had been proven beyond doubt, that Range Voting is the only choice for third parties and that they had better push it or they might as well pack up and go home, has not been show, neither by his study nor by his additional arguments. At least not so far.

Range, *properly implemented*, could indeed help third parties, but so could Approval (granularity-2 range, not really a different method but Warren often treats it as such), Asset Voting (which might be legally difficult in public elections but which might work well in primaries and thus see possible wider use later), Condorcet, or, as is in fact shown by the chart on Warren's cited page, any kind of PR.


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