On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:20:47 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 08:52 PM 3/26/2007, Dave Ketchum wrote: > >>On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:08:03 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: >> >>>What Ketchum has done is to connect floor rights with voting power, >>>rigidly. But voting power, as I've mentioned, properly comes from >>>the voters, not from the assembly, and participation rights in a >>>meeting -- generally, of any kind -- come from the meeting, i.e., the >>>assembly. >>> >> >>That the voters can elect a candidate to be a legislator is THEIR >>power of choice. >> >>That the voters can later elect a replacement is THEIR power of choice. >>
I simply offer facts in preparation for my next paragraph. Abd offered a book in response, but did not really deny. >>I see environment not mattering normally: >> The above is true when election is via ballot box >> I see it properly remaining true when election is via proxy - >>and keep the definitions consistent. >> > > What Ketchum is doing is to elect a legislature by proxy, and > apparently to maintain the variable voting power of proxies, but he > would retain terms of office. Thus he loses a key aspect of proxy > democracy, which is continuous representation. > I have said NOTHING about terms of office. A proxy giver can change the proxy AT ANY TIME. I specify a delay between filing the change and it's taking effect because I see the legislature needing to know the effects coming up in time to make adjustments - including such as new legislators preparing to be legislators before the day they start doing. A problem I have not mentioned - I am not sure the recording of proxies can be both effective and secret - and feel secrecy is not essential. Abd and I make no changes in the rest since my previous post. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/davek Dave Ketchum 108 Halstead Ave, Owego, NY 13827-1708 607-687-5026 Do to no one what you would not want done to you. If you want peace, work for justice. ---- election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info