I think the method Diego Santos is considering can elect outside the Smith set (a.k.a. top cycle), depending on the tie-breaker. Here's an example with 21 voters and 4 candidates:
4 4 4 3 3 3 --- --- --- --- --- --- A B C D D D B C A A B C C A B B C A D D D C A B {A,B,C} is a set of clones in a "vicious" cycle. (By vicious, I mean all margins in the cycle are large. I think Mike Ossipoff may have been first to use the term, many years ago.) What makes this scenario very rare (assuming many voters) is that the margins in the vicious cycle are equal: A over B by (4+4+3+3) - (4+3) = 7 B over C by (4+4+3+3) - (4+3) = 7 C over A by (4+4+3+3) - (4+3) = 7 The Smith set is {A,B,C}. Can D win? If I understand Diego's definition, D is not eliminated since the margin in D's pairwise defeats is smallest (12 - 9 = 3). I think A and B and C are also not eliminated since there's a tie in their cycle's margins. Thus the set of non-eliminated candidates is {A,B,C,D}. Among {A,B,C,D} there is no Condorcet winner. So, a tiebreaker must select from {A,B,C,D}. If the tiebreaker can select outside the Smith set, D can be elected. Typical tiebreakers (Random, Random Voter's Ballot, Chairperson's Choice) can select outside the Smith set. D would win given plain MinMax even if the margins in the vicious cycle are unequal. Thus, given plain MinMax the elite political actors might limit competition, to eliminate the chance of a vicious cycle among their faction. A consequence of limiting competition is increased corruption, for instance by the use of primary elections which require large amounts of money to win nomination. That's unfortunate, since MinMax might be relatively simple to sell: "Elect the candidate that minimizes the number of voters who prefer someone else." (I believe Diego's method is too complicated to be adopted in public elections for the foreseeable future.) However, MinMax + CandidateWithdrawal would be a very good method, thanks to its simplicity, the incentive it would give candidates to try to be the best compromise, and the full-bore competition it would facilitate. Even Instant Runoff + CandidateWithdrawal would be a decent method, and considering the progress Instant Runoff has been making, it makes sense to propose patching it with CandidateWithdrawal. Please take some time to do that. --Steve Eppley -------------------------- Diego Santos wrote: > Happy new year to all! > > Perhaps my previous definition was not enough clear, for the possible > confusion between "potential winner" and "winner" on its final. Then, I > reformulated it: > > "Some candidate X is eliminated if a) exists Y that beats X and b) the > margin of Y against X is greater than the greatest margin of another > candidate against Y. The winner is the Condorcet winner among non-eliminated > candidates". > > An example (from http://www.mcdougall.org.uk/VM/ISSUE6/P4.HTM): > > 5:a>d>c>b > 5:b>c>a>d > 8:c>a>b>d > 4:d>a>b>c > 8:d>b>c>a > > Notation: > Candidate X(minimax score of X): Candidate Y(margin of Y against X, minmax > score of Y): > > a(12): c(12,4) eliminated > b(4): a(4,12), d(4,6) > c(4): b(4,4), d(4,6) > d(6): a(6,12) > > d beats either b and c, then d is elected. > > Another example (from Markus' paper): > > 3:a>d>e>b>c>f > 3:b>f>e>c>d>a > 4:c>a>b>f>d>e > 1:d>b>c>e>f>a > 4:d>e>f>a>b>c > 2:e>c>b>d>f>a > 2:f>a>c>d>b>e > > a(5): c(1,5), d(1,3), e(1,9), f(5,7) > b(7): a(7,5), d(1,3) eliminated > c(5): b(3,7), e(5,9) > d(3): c(3,5) > e(9): b(1,7), d(9,3) eliminated > f(7): b(7,7), c(1,5), d(1,3), e(1,9) > > c beats a, d and f, then c is elected. > ________________________________ > Diego Santos > ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info