Jonathan Lundell wrote:
On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:28 AM, Juho wrote:

I hope this speculation provided something useful. And I hope I got the Meek's method dynamics right.

Meek completely fixes Woodall free riding. That strategy takes advantage of the fact that most STV methods (to the extent we're in a STV/Meek/etc context) are sensitive to elimination order in how they distribute surpluses. In most other STV methods, if I vote for my first and second preferences AB first, and A has a surplus, then only a fraction of my vote (or a probabilistic whole) transfers to B. But if I rank hopeless candidate Z first: ZAB, then (hopefully) A gets elected before Z is eliminated, and my whole vote goes to B. If Z gets eliminated first, no harm done, I'm left with AB. The hazard, of course, is that so many voters do this that Z gets elected and/or AB eliminated.

Meek cures this entirely via its principle that when Z is eliminated, the ballots are counted *as if Z had never run*. There's no advantage to me in ranking Z first.

In general then, any method that acts like Z had never run (when Z is eliminated) would be resistant to Woodall free-riding.

Hylland is another kettle of fish. Here, I vote BA instead of my sincere AB, because I "know" that A will be elected without my help, and I can afford to spend my entire vote on B.

This is only useful, of course, if I'm competing with other A supporters who have some second choice, say AC voters. They will have only a fraction of their votes transfer to C, while I will have my entire vote counted for B because I didn't bother to rank A first, even though A is my first choice (I'd better be very confident).


There's a risk to the Hylland strategy, of course, if I make a mistake in judging that A will be elected without my help. Other than that, though, I don't offhand see a way of defending against Hylland free riding.

Hmm.. what could be done here? We could try to find out methods that resist Hylland free-riding, or find methods where there are few honest reasons to use the vote management version.

For the latter, I think PR methods that deal with equally ranked candidates as if they were symmetrically completed would have an advantage. For a party that expects very few personal votes, equal ranking would spread the voting power to a much larger extent than they could by running a vote management strategy. For instance, for a 6 candidate case, there's no way the party could arrange 720 different pseudo-bailiwicks. Hopefully, parties that say "don't equal rank" would appear dishonest. There's nothing stopping them from doing so, technically, though, and the equal-rank property would make it easier for those who actually want to do vote management to do so, as they can get the majority to equal rank and then just have a small subgroup vote opposite the ordering of the personal voters.

For the former, I think that Approval methods would have some inherent safety against this (simply because you can't reorder the candidates). I might be wrong (I don't know enough about it), since Plurality doesn't let you reorder the candidates either, but SNTV basically requires vote-management to work at all.

One could also have a PR method that uses relative information about the ranking of strong winners as little as possible. Schulze's STV is one example of such a method. Perhaps one could make a method based on DSC or DAC in a similar vein (but not PSC-CLE, it scores badly in my simulations), since DAC/DSC works based on sets of candidates.

A final option would be to have a method where either not running a vote management scheme is a stable equilibrium, or where the risks when performing vote management are too high. The latter would probably deter individual voters more than parties, since parties can coordinate; but parties can't perfectly manage votes either.
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