At 12:34 AM 11/26/2008, Juho Laatu wrote:
One approach to sincerity is to compare voter behaviour to the requested behaviour. In Approval if the request is to mark all candidates that one approves then placing the cutoff between two main candidates is often insincere.. Approval is a special method from this point of view since it is often described as requiring the voter to plan what is the best strategic vote (where to put the cutoff).

It requires no such thing. Voters, however, will maximize their expected outcome if they vote optimally. And they vote optimally by making a sincere expression, and this is it: if they prefer any candidate to the expected election outcome, vote for that candidate. If not, don't. This is a sincere preference expression.

It certainly is not an expression of "approval," hence I have often stated that ballot instructions for voters should not use the word "Approve." The instructions *might* use the word "accept," but even that is doubtful. Voters aren't stupid. A statement could be like, "This election will pick one winner. You may vote for as many candidates as you choose to support, including a write-in candidate. The winner will be the candidate who receives the most votes."

Telling the voters how to vote is offensive. However, I'd presume that if Approval is implemented, there would be plenty of advice out there. Some of it might actually be good.

What is the "expected election outcome"? It's the average, approximately, of the frontrunners. I.e., one might assume that the election is a tossup between the two frontrunners. Literally, it's a tie. If you don't vote for one of them, or you vote for both, your vote wil not affect the result, it will be moot. If you vote for one of them, only, your vote will count. Vote as if you vote will count, for the candidate you sincerely prefer to that lottery. And vote the same way for all candidates.

Simple. Sincere. Actually applying it with precision, of course, difficult. But it's just one vote that the voter must decide, which has very little chance of being a deciding vote. Another way of putting it is, don't vote so that you will seriously regret your vote. If you bullet vote, and it turns out that if you'd have approved another candidate, that candidate would have won over a total jerk whom you detest, you'll regret your vote. If you vote for two, and your favorite loses, but the other one you voted for is acceptable, that's not much of a cause for regret, even if the race was close and you might think your vote decided it.

A single vote, in Approval, never, by itself, decides an election. Instead, it decides between a lottery and a election. That is, it converts a tie between two candidates into an election of one, or the election of the other into a tie. Therefore the possible regret from a vote is reduced to half the utility difference between the candidates.

It gets simpler if a majority is required, which is one reason why such requirements are brilliant. Did I mention that requiring a majority for any decision is basic to democratic process, and we only abandon it for practical reasons having to do with the difficulty of large-scale eletions?

When a majority is required, the question one might be answering with an Approval vote is "Do you prefer this candidate to having the election fail, necessitating further process?" If so, vote for the candidate. If not, don't. The answer to this question is dependent on expectations of what would happen if the there is majority failure. Majority failure can seriously improve results if it leads to a good runoff process. Might be a new nominee! Or the field is narrowed and one's favorite might have a better chance. With a majority requirement, one can more safely bullet vote, i.e., express a single preferred candidate. But, of course, if one would prefer to vote for an additional candidate to avoid the need to go to a runoff, then one can do so.

In any case, the vote, seen in this way, is a sincere expression of preference, and not voting sincerely doesn't produce any advantage for the voter.

It's important to realize that these expressions of sincere vote in Approval are also strategically maximal. They produce optimal expectation, there is no more powerful way to vote. The only way to improve them is to have better information about the election probabilities, i.e., to be better informed. Let's see -- Approval gives more power to voters who are better informed. Aha! I knew it! The method is elitist! Those mathematicians and political scientist who promoted Approval Voting, they just want to give an advantage to educated people, who are well-known to be liberal elitists, just like those biased newspaper reporters, the ones who actually meet and talk with the candidates, who want to lord it over all the rest of us common people with their superior knowledge. Down with all of them! To the barricades! Send them to the collective farms!

Ahem. Range and Approval reward sincere voting, if sincere is understood. The "insincere voting" that they allegedly reward is based on assumptions of what the votes mean that are inaccurate and essentially baseless. Certainly a vote under Approval doesn't mean that the voter "approves" of the candiate, in the ordinary sense. It's an unfortunate name for the method, for this reason. Count All the Votes is what I like to call it. Open Voting might be a nice name, what do you think?

Open Voting.

Yes, I like it.



Another interesting case is Range. If one requests the voters to mark their utilities then sincere voting might be rare since strategic exaggeration is practically always available and an efficient strategy. One can describe Range also as "Approval with ability to cast weak votes". In this case it could be as sincere as Approval.

I think these two Range description styles actually refer to two different methods although the voting and vote counting procedures are technically the same.

Also possible request to normalize one's vote vs. to just mark sincere utilities makes a difference in Range.

In summary, Approval is close to being a method where voters are expected to vote strategically, and therefore voters need not be insincere when doing so. In most methods (and environments) any deviation from one's sincere opinion in order to win in the election should however be classified as insincerity (and as unwanted strategic voting).

Juho



--- On Wed, 26/11/08, Kevin Venzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Kevin Venzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [EM] Why the concept of "sincere" votes in Range is flawed.
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wednesday, 26 November, 2008, 6:45 AM
> Hello,
>
> --- En date de : Mar 25.11.08, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> > What Approval sincerely represents from a voter is a
> > *decision* as to where to place an Approval cutoff.
>
> But is it not true that what *all* methods sincerely
> represent from a
> voter are the decisions related to voting under that
> method?
>
> If a decision makes sense in a given context, then that is
> a sincere
> decision. Is that not your stance?
>
> Kevin Venzke
>
>
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