Good Morning, Michael

re: "My offer of free software is not much help, because you
     cannot modify it yourself.  But you may find someone who
     can."

I'm sorry. I'm so out of step I didn't even realize you'd offered me free software. You're right, though. I couldn't modify it.


re: "The voters may note it, too.  Their judgement may suffice.
     Or, for your part, you may impose a limit on group size.  We
     could then experiment.  (The system isn't centrally
     administered, so individual towns and regions can easily do
     their own thing.)

When I first read this, I didn't understand it. It didn't seem (to me) to relate to the question of finding the optimum group size. Now, I think you're referring to your software. You're saying those who use it can decide among themselves what group size would be most effective.

I fear you're several steps ahead of me. I'm still struggling to reason my way through the human relationships inherent in a selection process like Practical Democracy. So far, although I've visited the links you provided, I haven't been able to internalize the material.


re: "Maybe the method is strong enough to handle this without
     forcing sortition?  We could argue that a tension between
     partisan and non-partisan motives - between the particular
     and the general - is not an accident of politics, but the
     essense of it.  And if we expose the voters to this
     essential tension, then maybe the method's hierarchical,
     tree structure will provide the means to express it and
     resolve it.  I imagine it would be resolved, bit by bit,
     through trial-and-error vote shifting.

     Crucially the tree structure allows the resolution to
     occur at the level of single votes.  A single vote may
     simultaneously express both assent and dissent for a
     candidate.  It expresses a general willingness, on the one
     hand, to bend toward consensus (rootward), while being in
     tension with a particular interest, on the other hand, that
     is more-or-less dissenting (leafward).  The deliberate and
     sustained casting of the vote is the crucial act that holds
     the structure together.  So it is very strong.  (Structural
     strength is needed, because the method is not only for
     elections, but also for direct legislative voting.)"

Ouch!!!

Initially, I took the 'method' mentioned in the first sentence to be the Practical Democracy method. Thereafter, I was lost. Now, after re-reading it several times, I think you're talking about the way of your software functions. Forgive me, but I'm unable to respond intelligently on that topic.


re: "I missed your specification of vote shifting.  In which post
     was it?"

Members of triads are under no compulsion to select either of their peers. They may choose as they see fit.


The more I read your post, the more I think we're talking at cross purposes. I keep thinking we're critiquing the concept of Practical Democracy, but you seem to be talking about how that concept can be integrated with your software. Although I've visited your site, I haven't been able, so far, to get a good handle on what I've read. Could we start by discussing the purpose of the software, and then, later, how the software helps achieve that purpose?

Fred Gohlke
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