At 05:24 PM 6/25/2013, Benjamin Grant wrote:

Stephen doesn't realize that speaking about someone in the third person in
front of them is a major dick move - or is *trying* to be a dick.

It's the norm in many groups. Using the second person is often considered inappropriate in mails to a list with many readers. It would be very weird in a personal mail, but not for something sent to a community.

The question is to whom the piece is addressed. If it is saying "Benjamin Grant is clueless" it is obviously not to you, but it isn't behind your back, either.

And it's largely true, i.e., that's certainly how you occur to some here. You are somewhat perceptive, but your understanding is raw, unseasoned. N'est-ce pas?

You ticked off Warren by misrepresenting what he'd written in response to you. That's how I read it. You might look back and see if you did that, instead of just complaining about how rude he was. Warren is an expert on voting systems and certain other topics, and not expert in manners and courtesy. What do you expect?

Warren is quick to sarcasm but also quick to return to straightforard communication. Try him, if you have questions. *Ask*. And *Listen.* That doesn't mean lie down and believe whatever he says. Warren is not God.

Simply put as much effort, or more, into seeking to understand what he writes, as he put into writing it. You'll likely learn something.
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