----- Original Message ----- From: "GreatOrg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [electrosex] New ideas... (Was: Electrostimulation may be good for impotence/erectile disfunction treatment?) - The biofeedback can detect the patient's sensation and adjust the stimulation, like in a 'real' lovemaking - The stimulator -via biofeedback- can learn what is the best feeling to the brain You have the key to success! I have though about what you said in the above two lines years ago. I have mentioned it briefly in posts in various lists etc. I never received any positive response. I tried to sell the Venus machine at one time. I sold 3 Venus machines and 1 Sybian. Your idea would work well using sex organ manipulation machines such as the Venus and Sybian, also, not just with estim. Here is what we are facing. The sellers of the finest of machines such as the Venus, Sybian, ET-312 etc. do not want to pay professional salespeople commissions. They want to keep their product simply on the Internet and some offer a generous trial period. You should not have to buy a product and return it to try it. Why not have professional sales people give demonstrations of the products at swingers conventions, private parties etc.? Until we get these machine manufacturers to think professionally, we will never have support of the machines such as the ET-312 widespread enough to fund extensive research. Their profit margins are too high. I am not advocating cutting prices but diverting some of those huge profits to salespeople commissions and research and development. Have more beta testers out there testing new accessories. This will eventually bring your ideas into reality. I have always believed that more profit can be had from a low markup on volume sales than a high markup that produces few sales. More profit is needed to fund adequate research and development. Have you noticed that sex organ stimulation products do not have the same respect and professional presentation as exercise equipment? No, I do not expect us to be able to walk into a variety store such as Sears and try out a ET-312 like we would try out a treadmill. There could be specialty stores that sell sex organ stimulation machines. In order to try a sex organ stimulation machine in a specialty store the customer should have to allow the seller to lock in the purchase price on their credit card and then release those funds if the purchase was not made. This would eliminate the bums who are not in the financial position to purchase a Venus, Sybian or ET-312. There would be a non refundable service fee or around $50.00 or so to cover personal things involved such as electrodes etc. that can not be returned for sanitary reasons. The salesperson would have to make sure any sex organ stimulation would be directly from the machine and not the salesperson. This would prevent legal charges involving prostitution from being filed. As long as sex organ stimulation machines are sold without demonstrations they will never gain enough popularity to support the massive research and development needed to: - The biofeedback can detect the patient's sensation and adjust the stimulation, like in a 'real' lovemaking - The stimulator -via biofeedback- can learn what is the best feeling to the brain When I sold the Venus I quickly found out that when it comes to masturbation, even the rich and famous are cheapskates who prefer to jack their own cock than to pay decent money to have it done for them. Now I sell real computers and the general public prefers the name brand junk such as Dell, Gateway, eMachine, Compaq and Hewlett Packard. 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