If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary video
driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any non-Intel GPU
user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu.


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver <c...@elementaryos.org> wrote:

> My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable and eclipse
> any popular sentiment right now.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver <c...@elementaryos.org>wrote:
>
>> PPAs.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User 
>> <consciousu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm developing had
>>> some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu overlay scrollbars
>>> were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu developers, I was
>>> told that my best chance was to patch the scrollbars myself
>>> because no one was currently working on them.
>>>
>>> This is a symptom of something that, for anyone who's been
>>> following the Ubuntu developer community, should be quite
>>> evident at this point: due to the move to QML and touch, GTK
>>> and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been using will now be
>>> second-class citizens, and it is only a matter of time before
>>> this change of status starts to gradually creep into overall
>>> stability and speed of fixing bugs.
>>>
>>> This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu simply packaged
>>> and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the problem is that
>>> they ship a patched stack mixed with unpolished Ayatana
>>> projects which might now never get any more polish. And this
>>> might get worse with the move to Mir, as Canonical will probably
>>> need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by itself.
>>>
>>> My intention here is not to question any direction Canonical
>>> is taking, but to question how much it still makes sense to
>>> build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a distro that
>>> uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least one that still
>>> treats it as a first-class citizen.
>>>
>>> It might be a good time to have a serious discussion on this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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