If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary video driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any non-Intel GPU user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver <c...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable and eclipse > any popular sentiment right now. > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver <c...@elementaryos.org>wrote: > >> PPAs. >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User >> <consciousu...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm developing had >>> some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu overlay scrollbars >>> were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu developers, I was >>> told that my best chance was to patch the scrollbars myself >>> because no one was currently working on them. >>> >>> This is a symptom of something that, for anyone who's been >>> following the Ubuntu developer community, should be quite >>> evident at this point: due to the move to QML and touch, GTK >>> and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been using will now be >>> second-class citizens, and it is only a matter of time before >>> this change of status starts to gradually creep into overall >>> stability and speed of fixing bugs. >>> >>> This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu simply packaged >>> and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the problem is that >>> they ship a patched stack mixed with unpolished Ayatana >>> projects which might now never get any more polish. And this >>> might get worse with the move to Mir, as Canonical will probably >>> need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by itself. >>> >>> My intention here is not to question any direction Canonical >>> is taking, but to question how much it still makes sense to >>> build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a distro that >>> uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least one that still >>> treats it as a first-class citizen. >>> >>> It might be a good time to have a serious discussion on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cody Garver >> > > > > -- > Cody Garver > -- Cody Garver
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