+1 Tricking other distros...great idea! :P On Jul 9, 2013 3:23 PM, "Craig" <webe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 > On Jul 9, 2013 12:03 AM, "Conscious User" <consciousu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Erm... I'm not sure how to answer this. None of >> your replies seem to be relevant or even directly >> related to what I said. >> >> >> Em Seg, 2013-07-08 às 23:27 -0500, Cody Garver escreveu: >> > If anyone is an opponent of GNOME tech right now it's proprietary >> > video driver developers. Those are concrete issues that affect any >> > non-Intel GPU user. I haven't seen any hostility from Ubuntu. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Cody Garver <c...@elementaryos.org> >> > wrote: >> > My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable >> > and eclipse any popular sentiment right now. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver >> > <c...@elementaryos.org> wrote: >> > PPAs. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User >> > <consciousu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm >> > developing had >> > some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu >> > overlay scrollbars >> > were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu >> > developers, I was >> > told that my best chance was to patch the >> > scrollbars myself >> > because no one was currently working on them. >> > >> > This is a symptom of something that, for >> > anyone who's been >> > following the Ubuntu developer community, >> > should be quite >> > evident at this point: due to the move to QML >> > and touch, GTK >> > and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been >> > using will now be >> > second-class citizens, and it is only a matter >> > of time before >> > this change of status starts to gradually >> > creep into overall >> > stability and speed of fixing bugs. >> > >> > This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu >> > simply packaged >> > and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the >> > problem is that >> > they ship a patched stack mixed with >> > unpolished Ayatana >> > projects which might now never get any more >> > polish. And this >> > might get worse with the move to Mir, as >> > Canonical will probably >> > need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by >> > itself. >> > >> > My intention here is not to question any >> > direction Canonical >> > is taking, but to question how much it still >> > makes sense to >> > build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a >> > distro that >> > uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least >> > one that still >> > treats it as a first-class citizen. >> > >> > It might be a good time to have a serious >> > discussion on this. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mailing list: >> > https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > Post to : >> > elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> > Unsubscribe : >> > https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > More help : >> > https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cody Garver >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cody Garver >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cody Garver >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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