Hi John, I'll take a look at USB3/GbE for an interim solution. It came up as an option some months ago, but I dismissed it because I thought the NIC lure would be available in short order. Given that its availability timeline is unknown right now, I agree the USB3/GbE approach is probably the best option available if I'm going to continue developing for the MAX.
Thanks! Chris On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:27 PM, John Hawley <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, > > Out of curiosity would USB3 be good enough as an interim solution? > There exist USB3 GbE nics, and in my testing you can saturate them just > as well as the PCI-E. Obviously it's not ideal, losing DMA isn't > anything to sneeze at, I'll admit, but for the applications I'm doing > with the MAX where I need more than one NIC that's what I've been doing > and have been pretty happy. > > Some quick paper napkin math to justify USB3 & GbE: > > USB3 has 5Gbps of available bandwidth > > a single GbE interface needs 2Gbps of bandwidth (bi-directional) > > so a single USB3 port should be able to accommodate two GbE ports and 5 > 10/100 ports before *COMPLETELY* maxing out the bus. > > I'm obviously not taking into account various bits of overhead, or the > extra CPU time needed to deal with USB in general, just more indicating > that USB might not be a horrible interim solution (obviously depending). > > - John 'Warthog9' Hawley > > On 11/25/2014 12:24 PM, Chris Benson wrote: > > Dave, > > > > I'm in a bit of a bind then. I really want to use the MinnowBoardMAX, > > but multiple NICs are critical for my application. > > > > Recognizing that production depends on factors beyond your control, can > > you provide a very loose ballpark estimate on when the NIC lure might > > become available? (i.e. 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 1 year, etc.) > > > > Also, would it be possible to upload the design files (and other > > relevant files) for the NIC lure to the wiki page? > > > > http://www.elinux.org/Minnowboard:MaxLures > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:04 PM, David Anders <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Chris, > > > > unfortunately i can not give you a schedule. while the design is > > done, getting > > it into production does depend on a lot of factors outside my > > control from an > > engineering perspective. > > > > the current design of the NIC Lure only contains a single NIC with a > > secondary > > SATA connector... > > > > Dave > > > > > > > On November 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM Chris Benson > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > When do you expect the NIC lure will be available? > > > > > > And will the lure include one or two NICs? > > > > > > I've been waiting for many months for it to become available for > > several > > > MAX-based prototypes I'm working on, and it's becoming a real > > problem for > > > me. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:50 PM, David Anders > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > Chris/Scott, > > > > > > > > sorry for the delay response. we've been concentrating on > > getting the > > > > inventory > > > > up on the minnowmax so almost all of our available production > > resources > > > > have > > > > allocated for that. with that said we do have the Flotsam Lure > > (aka mSATA > > > > Lure) > > > > and the Jetsam Lure (aka mPCIe Lure) rolling through production > > now.... > > > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/101339419642360856354/posts/HrQVBwskfjw > > > > > > > > technodisti.com <http://technodisti.com> should be the first > > distributor to have the lures in > > > > stock at > > > > the end of next week... > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > On November 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM Scott Guthrie > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Funny...I was on TechnoDisti this morning, thinking something > > might have > > > > > popped up. But...not yet. Perhaps soon. > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Mitchell, Nathaniel P < > > > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > According to a comment from David Anders on this thread: > > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/101339419642360856354/posts/CTRRofGPpg7 > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the lures should be available for order now? Still > > waiting on a > > > > > > link. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nathaniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* elinux-MinnowBoard [mailto: > > > > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of > > *Scott > > > > Guthrie > > > > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:06 AM > > > > > > *To:* MinnowBoard Development and Community Discussion > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [MinnowBoard] NIC Lure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or...ANY lures other than the Calamari Lure. I personally am > > > > interested > > > > > > in the SeaCat, Flotsam and Jetsam lures. Last I heard > > anything about > > > > them > > > > > > was in August...are there any in production? > > > > > > > > > > > > The board is great, but for this thing grow, I'm thinking > > these add-on > > > > > > boards need to be readily available as well... > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Chris Benson > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Any update on when NIC lures will be available? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Benson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard > > > _______________________________________________ > elinux-MinnowBoard mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.elinux.org/mailman/listinfo/elinux-minnowboard >
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