"J.D. Smith" <[email protected]> writes:
>> Disclosure: I am not familiar with org-appear, so I tasked LLM with
>> reviewing the codes. Below is the original full report on the
>> differences:
>
> Fine for generating ideas, but better for real org-appear users to try
> org-inside and comment.
Indeed.
>> What org-appear has that org-inside does not
>>
>> 1. Subscript/superscript marker toggling
>
> A good idea. I have pushed an implementation for sub/superscripts. I
> needed to add a new symbol `org-raise' to the invisibility spec, and add
> a new hidden-text-functions type.
>
> Note that the plain variety, e.g.:
>
> upper_lower
>
> has no positional ambiguity on the right hand side. Point and cursor
> have only one value there. So no matter what, this behaves differently
> than
>
> upper_{lower}
>
> even if it looks the same in the buffer. You can still /see/ where
> insertions will go, but you can't alter in the same way by moving in
> from one side or the other, except by appending a space or something not
> allowable within a "bare" super/subscript. I'm afraid there is no easy
> way around this difference.
I played a bit with this, and I find the current behavior a bit
inconsistent.
Consider
This is foo_{bar} *foo* [[link]]
1. emacs -Q /path/to/example.org
2. M-x org-toggle-pretty-entities
3. M-x org-inside-mode
When inside [[link]], the cursor is |
However, when inside {bar}, the cursor is █.
>> 4. LaTeX fragment support
> ...
> Note that supporting sub/superscripts inside latex fragments is also not
> possible at present, since those are not parsed separately by
> org-element. If a future version of org-element adds support
> (i.e. sub/superscript are parsed /inside/ latex-fragment), these can be
> supported.
Can't you use latex-fragment + regexp check?
>> 5. Configurable delay
>>
>> =org-appear-delay= (default =0.0=) introduces an idle-timer delay before
>> showing hidden markers. The timer is cancelled if the cursor moves away
>> before it fires. Useful for reducing visual noise during rapid
>> navigation.
>>
>> org-inside uses cursor-sensor-functions, which fire instantaneously on
>> entry/exit. No delay mechanism exists.
>
> A reasonable idea; added in `org-inside-unhide-delay', defaulting to
> 1.0s (can consider 0.0). Note that emacs v31 (and it's `moved' cursor
> sensor type) is required for further delaying after each movement.
Two observations:
1. It does not work for sub/superscripts
2. I think it would make sense to have a delay for hiding as well.
WDYT?
>> 10. Pre-command hook for specific commands
>>
>> org-appear's =pre-command-hook= hides elements before
>> =org-fill-paragraph= and =org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c= execute, because these
>> commands depend on column positions and would misbehave if hidden
>> markers were temporarily visible.
>
> Can someone confirm this and describe a case in more detail?
Try
* *This* is a test heading with :tag:
and setup org-inside to unhide.
Then, C-u C-c C-q on the heading will align differently depending on
whether the stars are visible or not.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode maintainer,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
